Do You Have the Guts?
The market will coast through the next few months, and then pick up during the selling season when both buyers and sellers decide to quit dancing around and just go for it (after they see others doing it too).
The market will coast through the next few months, and then pick up during the selling season when both buyers and sellers decide to quit dancing around and just go for it (after they see others doing it too).
If there was a big surge of listings that weren’t selling, then we’d know for sure that the local market was in trouble. But we got so spoiled by the super-frenzy conditions last year where everything was selling right away that we forgot what it’s like during a non-frenzy.
Yep, when you compare to 2021, we have more active listings – in fact, there are 32% more $2,000,000+ listings today than there were at this time last year! But relatively speaking, the 340 is a low number:
NSDCC Detached-Home Active Listings, Third Week of August:
Price Range | |||||
0 – $1.5M | |||||
$1.5M – $2.0M | |||||
$2.0M+ | |||||
Total # of Listings |
The inventory is top-heavy with 75% of the actives priced over $2,000,000, but we’ve been very dependent upon the affluent buyers for a while now – the people who are less sensitive to mortgage-rate fluctuations. The real problem is that you have never gotten so little for your money as you get today. If anyone can find a way to move up in price to buy a better home, it’s the affluent buyers!
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The $0 – $1,500,000 Market:
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Jan 3, 2022 | ||||
Jan 10 | ||||
Jan 17 | ||||
Jan 24 | ||||
Jan 31 | ||||
Feb 7 | ||||
Feb 14 | ||||
Feb 21 | ||||
Feb 28 | ||||
Mar 7 | ||||
Mar 14 | ||||
Mar 21 | ||||
Mar 28 | ||||
Apr 4 | ||||
Apr 11 | ||||
Apr 18 | ||||
Apr 25 | ||||
May 2 | ||||
May 9 | ||||
May 16 | ||||
May 23 | ||||
May 30 | ||||
Jun 6 | ||||
Jun 13 | ||||
Jun 20 | ||||
Jun 27 | ||||
Jul 4 | ||||
Jul 11 | ||||
Jul 18 | ||||
Jul 25 | ||||
Aug 1 | ||||
Aug 8 | ||||
Aug 15 | ||||
Aug 22 |
The $1,500,000 – $2,000,000 Market:
Date | ||||
Jan 3, 2022 | ||||
Jan 10 | ||||
Jan 17 | ||||
Jan 24 | ||||
Jan 31 | ||||
Feb 7 | ||||
Feb 14 | ||||
Feb 21 | ||||
Feb 28 | ||||
Mar 7 | ||||
Mar 14 | ||||
Mar 21 | ||||
Mar 28 | ||||
Apr 4 | ||||
Apr 11 | ||||
Apr 18 | ||||
Apr 25 | ||||
May 2 | ||||
May 9 | ||||
May 16 | ||||
May 23 | ||||
May 30 | ||||
Jun 6 | ||||
Jun 13 | ||||
Jun 20 | ||||
Jun 27 | ||||
Jul 4 | ||||
Jul 11 | ||||
Jul 18 | ||||
Jul 25 | ||||
Aug 1 | ||||
Aug 8 | ||||
Aug 15 | ||||
Aug 22 |
The $2,000,000 – $3,000,000 Market:
Date | ||||
Jan 3, 2022 | ||||
Jan 10 | ||||
Jan 17 | ||||
Jan 24 | ||||
Jan 31 | ||||
Feb 7 | ||||
Feb 14 | ||||
Feb 21 | ||||
Feb 28 | ||||
Mar 7 | ||||
Mar 14 | ||||
Mar 21 | ||||
Mar 28 | ||||
Apr 4 | ||||
Apr 11 | ||||
Apr 18 | ||||
Apr 25 | ||||
May 2 | ||||
May 9 | ||||
May 16 | ||||
May 23 | ||||
May 30 | ||||
Jun 6 | ||||
Jun 13 | ||||
Jun 20 | ||||
Jun 27 | ||||
Jul 4 | ||||
Jul 11 | ||||
Jul 18 | ||||
Jul 25 | ||||
Aug 1 | ||||
Aug 8 | ||||
Aug 15 | ||||
Aug 22 |
The $3,000,000 – $4,000,000 Market:
Date | ||||
Jan 3, 2022 | ||||
Jan 10 | ||||
Jan 17 | ||||
Jan 24 | ||||
Jan 31 | ||||
Feb 7 | ||||
Feb 14 | ||||
Feb 21 | ||||
Feb 28 | ||||
Mar 7 | ||||
Mar 14 | ||||
Mar 21 | ||||
Mar 28 | ||||
Apr 4 | ||||
Apr 11 | ||||
Apr 18 | ||||
Apr 25 | ||||
May 2 | ||||
May 9 | ||||
May 16 | ||||
May 23 | ||||
May 30 | ||||
Jun 6 | ||||
Jun 13 | ||||
Jun 20 | ||||
Jun 27 | ||||
Jul 4 | ||||
Jul 11 | ||||
Jul 18 | ||||
Jul 25 | ||||
Aug 1 | ||||
Aug 8 | ||||
Aug 15 | ||||
Aug 22 |
The $4,000,000+ Market:
Date | ||||
Jan 3, 2022 | ||||
Jan 10 | ||||
Jan 17 | ||||
Jan 24 | ||||
Jan 31 | ||||
Feb 7 | ||||
Feb 14 | ||||
Feb 21 | ||||
Feb 28 | ||||
Mar 7 | ||||
Mar 14 | ||||
Mar 21 | ||||
Mar 28 | ||||
Apr 4 | ||||
Apr 11 | ||||
Apr 18 | ||||
Apr 25 | ||||
May 2 | ||||
May 9 | ||||
May 16 | ||||
May 23 | ||||
May 30 | ||||
Jun 6 | ||||
Jun 13 | ||||
Jun 20 | ||||
Jun 27 | ||||
Jul 4 | ||||
Jul 11 | ||||
Jul 18 | ||||
Jul 25 | ||||
Aug 1 | ||||
Aug 8 | ||||
Aug 15 | ||||
Aug 22 |
NSDCC Weekly New Listings and New Pendings
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Jan 31 | ||||
Feb 7 | ||||
Feb 14 | ||||
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Feb 28 | ||||
Mar 7 | ||||
Mar 14 | ||||
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Mar 28 | ||||
Apr 4 | ||||
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Apr 25 | ||||
May 2 | ||||
May 9 | ||||
May 16 | ||||
May 23 | ||||
May 30 | ||||
Jun 6 | ||||
Jun 13 | ||||
Jun 20 | ||||
Jun 27 | ||||
Jul 4 | ||||
Jul 11 | ||||
Jul 18 | ||||
Jul 25 | ||||
Aug 1 | ||||
Aug 8 | ||||
Aug 15 | ||||
Aug 22 |
For new homes, it’s mostly just infill projects now in the prime areas so even the big boys are looking for smaller projects. It looks like Toll picked this up for $12 million last October, and they are going to build 4,765sf to 6,036sf houses that are the same or similar to what they built at Palomar in PHR.
Yesterday, they sent emails saying prices will start at $3,500,000 for the 25 houses, which means they should get into the $4-millions pretty quick. Here’s what their biggest model in PHR looked like just four years ago, which coincidentally is up for resale, priced at $5,995,000:
https://www.tollbrothers.com/luxury-homes-for-sale/California/Del-Mar-Mesa-Estates
These guys are among the most negative in the business, so if they have San Diego County home prices changing –3.65% between now and the end of 2023, and then -2.9% by the end of 2024, then prices in the better areas will be positive.
The most likely to happen is that we’ll see a few wild sales at the extreme ends, and those will get the headlines. The rest will be +/-5% of the comps. Most will just fumble along – just like during the frenzy – with little or no quality data or advice.
https://fortune.com/2022/08/15/falling-home-prices-to-hit-these-housing-markets-in-2023-and-2024/
After my blog post yesterday publicizing the confidence Zillow has in our local markets, guess what arrived today. Yep, their first installment of their next round (it usually takes 2-3 weeks to receive the full set):
At the end of July, their prediction for Carmel Valley was for a 12.9% increase in values over the next year. Today, their forecast is for +1.7% appreciation over the next year for one of the strongest markets in the county. It means that many other areas are going to have a negative number.
On July 11th, Rob Dawg said:
Don’t panic.
If you do panic, panic first.
I can get your home on the market today!
I think we can say that summer is over, and the off-season is here.
How will the rest of 2022 play out, and what will be the effect on the 2023 Selling Season?
We know that the local NSDCC sales counts will be low for the rest of 2022. Last year we had 136 closings between August 1-15, and this year we’ve had 65. If we keep having about half of the 2021 sales, then our total sales between August and December will be 594, or an average of 119 per month!
It could look something like this green line:
We will probably have fewer listings than ever in 2H22, but those sellers should be motivated to sell. If they didn’t need to sell, wouldn’t they be tempted to just wait until spring to go on the open market?
We know that every seller has a load of equity, so if they have to lower their price to sell, they could. But will they? We can speculate that if they only had to lower their price by 5%, then they would make the deal. But going lower than 5% off is where the trouble starts – and the seller’s ego gets a vote.
If sellers continue to hold out on price, and sales follow the green line, it will look like a hard landing – and the 2023 selling season could end up being a dud. It would definitely get off to a slower start, and could sputter through the selling season if the inventory is lackluster and priced at retail, or retail-plus.
How likely is that? Very!
The second-half sellers of 2022 are going to determine our fate for the 2023 Selling Season. Expect next year’s market to be somewhere in the Sputter-to-Frenzy range, guaranteed!
But if you are a buyer, what are you going to do? Wait until 2024?
Let’s re-visit this in January. If sales beat the Green Line, then a more active market in spring is likely!
Here is Bill’s graph of the national sales:
The latest Zillow 1-Year Forecasted Values are still expecting a fairly strong appreciation rate over the next year – these estimates are the same or higher than last month! I can see a path to how this could happen.
The Spring Selling Season gets frenzied up for 3-4 months where buyers and sellers all jump in at the same time, and then the market goes flat for the rest of the year…..kinda like this year!
They do have website-viewer data that nobody else has, and hopefully they are using it to track the activity and make predictions.
The reason for breaking down the active and pending listings by zip code is to give the readers a closer look at their neighborhood stats. We’ve considered a 2:1 ratio of actives-to-pendings to be a healthy market.
Most areas today have the same or better stats as they did last month. The number of active listings hit their peak in August last year, as usual, and it’s likely that the count of unsold listings will drop slowly over the rest of 2022 (and the pendings follow). Prepare for 2-3 months of NSDCC sales being under 100!
NSDCC Actives and Pendings
Taking out the high-enders La Jolla and Rancho Santa Fe, the actives-to-pendings is 2.4-to-1 (291:121), which isn’t bad, all considered.
Mid-February, and the 2023 Selling Season, is only six months away!
Yesterday was the Compass 2Q earnings call (transcript here) and as usual, the headlines focused on the net loss of $101.2 million – more than half of which was stock-based compensation for agents.
Compass has been very generous in their support of agents nationwide, and management is finding ways to effectively scale it back a bit. For example, they won’t be offering stocks as a recruiting tool any more. But we, the existing agents, aren’t affected by recruitment, and we’d be fine if they didn’t hire another agent! So while the stock may get battered, the agents are doing well.
I’ve mentioned that our annual contract is up in July. There was a time when we discussed Kayla joining Compass in NYC, and during that discussion our CEO offered us a 2-year contract. I brought it up again last month, and he agreed to it. We signed a two-year extension a couple of weeks ago – we are happy here!
Here are the Compass internal comments about the earnings call:
It’s probably true that seniors are leading healthier, longer lives and will prefer to age-in-place – which will keep a limit on the number of homes for sale and temper any downdraft in pricing. What is worse is that the resulting back-up will cause others to stay in their current home forever too!
It was asked on Twitter, ‘how could homes prices get cut in half?’ I said, “Boomers die 10x faster”, which got my Twitter account suspended temporarily. Let’s see if they do it again!
Reader ‘just some guy’ sent in this UT article – an excerpt:
On Thursday, county officials announced that San Diego County has become the first county in the nation to have all 18 of its eligible hospitals receive the Geriatric Emergency Department (GED) Accreditation.
San Diego County is home to a large population of people age 60 and older, and that demographic is projected to continue growing over the next decade. Today, there are approximately 670,000 county residents in this age group, and by 2030, they are expected to surpass 900,000, said Nick Macchione, director of the county’s Health & Human Services Agency.
Seniors are more likely than almost any other age group to visit the emergency room. The county reports that each year, about 275,000 county seniors make ER visits, which leads to about one-third of all hospital admissions. “That is why it’s critically important to have all our hospitals that are eligible be geriatric certified,” Macchione said.