You can’t spend too much time reading/watching the news recently without being well aware of the relatively unprecedented surge in mortgage rates seen so far in 2022. In particular, the month of March was one the worst on record with one individual week in March tying a week in June 2013 as the worst in more than 25 years. All that to say, rates are much higher!
The higher borrowing costs have had the same impact they always have when it comes to refinance applications. In this week’s Mortgage Application Survey from the Mortgage Bankers Association (MBA), refis dropped another 10 percent, and are now 62 percent lower than the same week last year.
The purchase market remains a different story.
While purchase applications also declined last week, they are only 9 percent below the same week last year and still higher than most of the past decade before the Covid. Keep in mind that the survey only tracks applications, so by the time all-cash demand is factored into the purchase market, housing demand has yet to show any major panic over the rising rate environment.
Now that we are grappling with 5% mortgage rates, people are wondering how it will affect the market.
The common perception is that there will be pullback.
What that means isn’t defined – it’s just a vague concept that the logical mind wants to believe. But logic flew out the window long ago, so I’m not sure how useful it is today. Prices went up 30% in 2021 and it didn’t stop, or even slow the market in the first quarter of 2022.
Does it matter what the opinion is today?
Not really, and you can refer to the chart above to see how much opinions matter.
All that matters is that we track the trends over the next few months to see what actually happens!
Yesterday I said all we have to do is monitor the days-on-market, and the actives vs pendings to get advance notice on how the market is behaving. Let’s add a third metric, the SP:LP ratio.
Who are the home buyers that will determine our fate? When out-of-towners from more affluent areas come here to see our prices, they think we are giving them away. There have been estimates that as many as 70% of the coastal sales here have been bought by people from the Bay Area.
We should keep an eye on their market!
I’m watching one sale in progress there. My uncle has been a lifelong resident, and my mom, brother and sister all live there so I have opportunity to check in on their real estate market from time to time.
In December, we went to pay our respects to Sally, my uncle’s long-time girlfriend. They met later in life and had separate houses, and unfortunately Sally passed away from cancer just before Christmas.
We had a brief conversation with her sisters who were from outside California, and they expected that they would sell her home in early 2022. The zestimate was in the mid-$2,000,000s, and they said they would be happy with a price in that range.
After painting and staging the relatively modest 1,763sf house built in 1953, they listed it for $3,195,000. It went pending within ten days – and since then the zestimate has zoomed to $3,800,000!
The house is five doors away from the Foothill Expressway, which isn’t a freeway but there is some road noise. The 9,975sf lot size is attractive, and the house is one-story. But low-to-mid $3,000,000s?
Even more interesting was the house at 1051 Peninsular Ct. When we were there, I saw the sign and drove by to confirm that it was literally right next to the Foothill Expressway. It closed for $3,100,000!
The pricing in the Bay Area is subject to change, just like it is here – but it should be somewhat relative, and we will likely ride the same elevator. The 1Q22 pricing spiked in Los Altos, and the sisters – who only expected a sales price in the mid-$2,000,000s – will pick up a lucky windfall.
The 2022 Lucky Windfall of the First Quarter doesn’t have to continue throughout the year for our market to thrive. If pricing “crashes” downward 10% to 20% from today’s lofty heights, it means we’re only back to November pricing, which you would think wouldn’t bother sellers much.
But it will.
Do not underestimate the home seller’s ego.
It doesn’t mean you should, or shouldn’t, go buy a house today. If you are a home buyer in the hunt, just be picky (or pickier) about what you will tolerate. The list prices will feel like TodayComps+5%, the sellers are doing less to condition them for sale, and the listing agents act like you owe them money.
There is one guarantee. The inventory later in the year will be worse than it is today. It could feel like pricing is loosening up (it’s not yet), especially in the 4th quarter of 2022, but it won’t matter if there aren’t any homes for sale that you would buy. Be in the hunt for the right house!
I will keep track of the winners and losers. Help me if you can!
Here is today’s winner, who had 11 showings and three offers. Tanya raised the list price to a range, which makes it look like it probably went over $3,000,000:
It may seem crazy to you, but those coming from Los Altos will think it looks like a steal!
We joke about how sellers are reluctant about lowering their price, but it has been a solid strategy over the last 10-12 years. Here is a prime example (see above).
P.S. They had no showings last year, and decided the timing wasn’t right. Boy, howdy!
From yesterday’s article, which also ran in the SDUT today:
“There are so many strange things going on right now,” said Edward Seiler, the associate vice president for housing economics at the Mortgage Bankers Association.
It has been 40 years since rates have risen like this alongside similar home price growth and high inflation. This time around, the United States also has a severe housing shortage. And then there’s a new and uncertain dynamic — the sudden rise of working from home, which has the potential to change what home buyers want and where they live.
“Nobody really knows what’s going to happen over the next year,” Mr. Seiler said. That makes it hard to predict when rates might start to act as a brake on rising prices.
Nobody?
I have to take a swing at that one!
There are many variables that could slow the increases in home prices, and higher rates are just the latest excuse. Prognosticators said that last year’s velocity was the reason the home prices would cool in 2022 – no one could imagine that they could go up as fast as they did in 2021 – yet NSDCC the median sales price has INCREASED 21% BETWEEN DECEMBER AND MARCH!
But will rising rates be the final blow, and home prices start to decelerate?
Let’s try to predict the path of mortgage rates in 2022. How much worse could it get?
Mortgage rates are loosely tied to the 10-year T-bill, which has risen 0.824% this year:
The Fed is expected to raise their benchmark rate 1.5% this year (6 x 0.25%), so the 10-year yield has another 0.676% to go to reflect the anticipated 1.5% increase in 2022.
Mortgage rates have mirrored the 10-year, plus 1.75%, for decades.
Today’s 30-year fixed mortgage rate is 4.84% so let’s add the additional 0.676% = 5.516%. Because mortgage lenders are like gas stations – quick to overshoot rates on the way up, and sluggish on the way down – we will probably see 6% mortgages this summer as lenders continue to get out in front.
Let’s note that today’s 10-yr yield is 2.452% plus 1.75% = 4.202% which means today’s mortgage rate is about 0.6% overshot too high.
To further demonstrate the current mortgage-rate overshoot, here was the rate on January 3rd:
The 10-year has gone up 0.824% YTD, and mortgage rates have risen 1.43% YTD.
We are due for pullback, but the mortgage lenders will more likely just let it ride, knowing that more Fed increases are coming. They will panic (again) and mortgage rates will probably be touching 6% in a couple of months, but we should settle into a range of 4.75% to 5.5% by the end of the year – which isn’t much different than it is today. It coincides with the January’s 3.41% plus 1.5% = 4.91%.
Will higher rates than today affect home prices? It depends on the sellers – they get a vote.
If relatively nobody wants to sell at these prices, they sure won’t want to sell at lower prices! Rather than lowering the price, they will blame their realtor for their home not selling, and try again next year.
They’re not going to give it away!
There isn’t going to be a surge on inventory, because it would have happened by now. But I’m sure there are buyers running to the sidelines in droves, wanting to believe it’s going to be different, later. There will be fewer offers on homes for sale, and some may not get any! All we have to do is monitor the two metrics, the days-on-market, and the actives vs pendings, to know the trend.
But there are additional variables that will keep prices in this range:
The affluent buyers who aren’t as affected by rates. As long as we don’t run out of them, home prices will stay right where they are, or keep trending upward.
All buyers, affluent or otherwise, will buy the dips. There will be an occasional home priced under the comps (usually the dated estate sales) and buyers will jump to pay less. But they will get bid up to within 5% of retail and create the floor.
Buyers who are affected by higher rates can get a 2.375% ARM, fixed for ten years.
Realtors will keep pumping the seller’s market because it’s all they know.
We are pulling into Plateau City.
Even if the buyer psychology crashes, and only the desperate buyers stay in the game for the next few months, we can easily predict what will happen in the second half of 2022. Because both sellers and buyers who didn’t transact in the first half of 2022 will pack it in for the rest of the year, sales will plummet in the last half of 2022. It’s what happens in the early stage of a market shift, because sellers can’t believe they missed the peak and would rather wait, then lower. It will takes several failures before sellers re-consider their price accuracy – and some never will.
The NSDCC median sales price in December was $2,165,000. In March, it was $2,625,000.
I expect that the December, 2022 median sales price will be within 5% of $2,625,000 (plus or minus).
Then in 2023, the market will be flooded with lookers, who will be hoping for lower prices than what they remember from summer. But sellers will be packing a little extra on their price, just in case.
What do you think?
Before commenting, spend 15 seconds to watch this response to a ~$3 million off-market listing:
It is natural to have more closings during the last week of the month, and the dip in the pendings count wasn’t as bad this month as it was last month. This is where you will see the first signs of any concern on behalf of buyers about interest rates, etc.
Everyone was talking about them at open house over the weekend. But we’re still going to sell my listing for well over the list price today!
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We have known Jim & Donna Klinge for over a dozen years, having met them in Carlsbad where our children went to the same school. As long time North County residents, it was a no- brainer for us to have the Klinges be our eyes and ears for San Diego real estate in general and North County in particular. As my military career caused our family to move all over the country and overseas to Asia, Europe and the Pacific, we trusted Jim and Donna to help keep our house in Carlsbad rented with reliable and respectful tenants for over 10 years.
Naturally, when the time came to sell our beloved Carlsbad home to pursue a rural lifestyle in retirement out of California, we could think of no better team to represent us than Jim and Donna. They immediately went to work to update our house built in 2004 to current-day standards and trends — in 2 short months they transformed it into a literal modern-day masterpiece. We trusted their judgement implicitly and followed 100% of their recommended changes. When our house finally came on the market, there was a blizzard of serious interest, we had multiple offers by the third day and it sold in just 5 days after a frenzied bidding war for 20% above our asking price! The investment we made in upgrades recommended by Jim and Donna yielded a 4-fold return, in the process setting a new high water mark for a house sold in our community.
In our view, there are no better real estate professionals in all of San Diego than Jim and Donna Klinge. Buying or selling, you must run and beg Jim and Donna Klinge to represent you! Our family will never forget Jim, Donna, and their whole team at Compass — we are forever grateful to them.
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March 27, 2025
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WeI had the pleasure of working with Klinge Realty Group to sell our home in Carmel Valley, and I cannot recommend them highly enough!
Jim and Donna demonstrated exceptional professionalism, offering expert guidance on market conditions and pricing strategy, which resulted in a quick and successful sale.
Communication was prompt and we were well-informed throughout the entire process.
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William Sams
March 25, 2025
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Donna and Jim Klinge of Klinge Realty Group have our highest possible recommendation. From Donna and Jim’s first visit to our house through closing their advice and counsel was candid and honest in all dealings. They kept us fully informed throughout the process. The house sold less than three days after listing with a two-week closing. My wife and I have sold several houses during our lives. This was by far the best experience. Klinge Reality is a premium service realtor. You can’t make a better choice for someone to sell your home fast and for top dollar.
Emily Hernandez
December 29, 2024
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Donna and Jim provided exceptional support and professionalism throughout the entire process. We couldn't have been happier with their efforts. They made our house shine, and thanks to their expertise, it sold above the listing price in the very first weekend! Truly a fantastic experience from start to finish.
Jesus Adrian Sahagun
November 11, 2024
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This year has been difficult on our family, mainly due to having to sell our home. Thankfully we knew God had a plan for us and working with the Klinge team was a key part of it. It was an obvious decision to work with them again after such an amazing experience when purchasing the same home we needed to sell. The challenge was, how will we do this in so little time with so much going on? Jim and Donna held our hand every step of the way. Whenever an unexpected issue arose they found and provided a solution. Never once did we feel pressured to make a decision and the Klinges were always reassuring after providing the information that the decision was ours to make. Despite the curve balls, they never panicked and exemplified the “can do” attitude, making us feel optimistic and taken care of. Their expertise and professionalism was superb. But of all the reasons to work with the Klinges, the most impactful and valuable is their compassion and genuine care for their clients. We pray that we can one day purchase our forever home and you better believe that Jim and Donna will be representing us - as long as they will have us of course. Thank you again Klinge team! Your execution, experience, and care are unmatched.
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July 23, 2024
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Jim and Donna were fantastic! Jim understanding my needs, recommending potential places, pointing out the pros and cons of each property was invaluable. Then when the offer was accepted Donna’s organized guidance through the inspections, paperwork etc made the whole process seem effortless.
So grateful that I had them on my side!
Anu Koberg
July 13, 2024
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We first found Jim through his blog at bubbleinfo.com, which really showcased his knowledge of SoCal real estate. Since then we've done three transactions with Jim and Donna, and they are an incredible full service agency, with Jim's deep market insight and Donna's deft contract and project management. We trust them implicitly in their analysis and strategy, which is based on years of experience. They're always available and on top of things, and we strongly recommend them to anyone.
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July 10, 2024
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The Good
The Klinge Realty Group operates like a finely tuned machine, with a very personal touch. We contacted them on a Sunday and they were talking to us about our family and our needs on our living room couch the following day. They carefully listened to us and worked with us to identify the best and quickest path to listing within 2 weeks to take advantage of the low inventory conditions in our South Carlsbad neighborhood. They knew our tract specifically and had many previous sales there over the years - they came prepared with a thorough analysis of comparative sales and recommended a pricing strategy that they felt confident would yield offers the first weekend on the market.
The Great
Over the next two weeks Donna coordinated a range of vendors who she knew from experience could get the preparation to list work we needed done on time and with high quality. Our light tune-up involved excellent experiences with their stagers, landscapers, contractors, electricians, and plumbers. Throughout this period Donna's daily communication was clear, concise, and responsive. Any time we had questions Donna picked up the phone or texted immediately - but almost always, she answered our questions before we even knew we had them.
The Outstanding
We had a tricky situation with a shared fence that could have delayed our escrow. Donna used superb mediation skills to negotiate the terms of replacement and was personally on site with the fence contractor to make sure everything went smoothly. The fence looks great and escrow closed on time.
The Truly Exceptional
Our house came on the market on a Wednesday and between then and Monday morning Jim was personally at all three open houses. He was in constant communication explaining potential buyer reaction and strength. As he predicted offers began to come in on Saturday and each one was incrementally higher than the last. At the end we had 5 offers, 4 of which were over list, and the final accepted offer was $100,000 over list. In addition to being over list it included rent back terms that met our needs.
The Recommendation
For all of these reasons we would strongly recommend The Klinge Team to anyone wanting to sell in North County Coastal San Diego. I had been reading Jim's bubbleinfo.com blog for 15 years and knew when the time came to sell that he would be our first call. Jim Klinge is not your standard realtor. He is keenly aware of market conditions and sales strategies. And, works his tail off - though not as hard as Donna . At this point he's gone from realtor to friend and I plan to have him over to grill and chill at our new place to talk real estate, but also just about life and raising kids in San Diego. He's more interested in relationships than his sales numbers - and that's why his sales numbers are so high. We have already recommended the Klinge's to some close friends and another successful sale is on deck right around the corner...
Chris Shea
June 21, 2024
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We recently had the pleasure of working with Jim and Donna from Klinge Realty Group to sell our house, and we couldn't be more satisfied with the experience. From the initial meeting, they listened attentively to our needs and provided invaluable guidance on specific improvements to get our home market ready.
Their responsiveness throughout the entire process was truly impressive. Anytime we had questions or concerns, they were quick to address them, ensuring we felt comfortable and informed every step of the way. What stood out the most was their team and extensive network of tradespeople, which made addressing any necessary repairs or updates seamless and stress-free.
Thanks to their expertise and dedication, our house sold quickly and at a great price. We highly recommend Jim and Donna to anyone looking to buy or sell a home. They are a fantastic team who truly care about their clients and deliver exceptional results.