Open-House Report
Over 100 people attended our open houses over the weekend, and the home was well received. It is rare to see an 80-year old bungalow improved this nicely!
Over 100 people attended our open houses over the weekend, and the home was well received. It is rare to see an 80-year old bungalow improved this nicely!
Check out our new listing!
506 S. Freeman St.
3 br/2 ba, 992sf
YB:1944
LP = $1,399,000
Are you looking for an updated beach bungalow that is walking distance to everything downtown Oceanside has to offer? This is it! Hardwood floors, like-new kitchen and baths, new paint, 2-car garage, big backyard with detached office plus lemon, fig and avocado trees – wow! Great candidate for adding an ADU.
Recent comps include 208 S. Ditmar 2br/2ba 1,106sf closed for $1,385,000 on 12/16/24; 310 S. Tremont 3br/2ba 940sf closed for $1,375,000 on 10/24/24; 713 Stanley 3br/1ba, 996sf closed for $1,300,000 on 9/19/24.
https://www.compass.com/listing/506-south-freeman-street-oceanside-ca-92054/1750199079927778353/?origin=listing_page&origin_type=copy_url&agent_id=5b51d51d9474a8364b9a8353
Two hours after listing input:
Virtually everyone is reluctant to predict the future of the real estate market. Even most realtors will throw their hands up and declare, “Who knows?”.
But around here, one fact has been clear and it tells us what we need to know about the rest of the year. The number of NSDCC listings in January ends up being 8% to 9% of the total for the year:
NSDCC Listings and Sales Data (La Jolla, Del Mar, Solana Beach, RSF, Cardiff, Encinitas, and Carlsbad)
It means that by mid-February we will be able to predict how many listings there will be in 2025, and thus, give us the likely direction of the market for the rest of the year.
I’ve been saying for three months that there is going to be a surge of listings, and it could be 15% to 20% more than there were in 2024. We’ve been doing the contest for Padres tickets to help put a spotlight on the January listings, and it has never been more interesting to see how many will hit the market this year!
Tomorrow, I’ll do a summary of the guesses so far and give everyone the rest of the week to enter or revise their guess so come back Monday morning.
The chart above gives more data for the analytical folks to craft their guess.
My Thoughts:
The last frenzy before Covid was in 2013. Pricing was stuck in a fairly tight range for the previous five years, but listings dropped and sales took off in 2012 and pricing followed in 2013 with a little more inventory. The variables weren’t all the same as today, but you may want to apply a similar effect from the animal spirits to today’s market. Or maybe not?
With another 9% increase in the median sales price and cost-per-sf in 2024, it shows that there really hasn’t been any limits on pricing. Will 2025 be the year that it changes? If so, will it be caused by another surge in listings? Or is there enough money floating around that more listings will cause more sales at higher prices like it did in 2024? It could go either way.
What about the political climate? Pro-Trump supporters are elated and will gladly join the buyer pool. Anti-Trump people are fearing the worst, but like we saw during the pandemic, fear is a fantastic motivator and it causes people to want to hunker down…at any price.
I had more people attend my open house yesterday on La Costa Avenue than I’ve had at the previous seven OHs. Most were just getting started, and the basic need for housing will keep them looking around. Will they buy? We’ll see.
We round-tripped four of our 17 listings in 2024 – and three of those were since the commission debacle on August 17th. Successfully working with buyers had already been a major challenge for agents, and now it’s worse. The affluent buyers will probably always want professional help, but will there be many, if any agents left who are willing to devote months of effort just to have their commission rate dangled in front of the seller for their approval?
Will the market survive it all? Yes, because there isn’t anything that price won’t fix!
Is having more homes for sale a big deal? The local market has survived everything else, though they were all at lower price points.
If price adjustments are needed, what can we expect?
I’ve mentioned how my recent listing in La Costa Oaks got caught up in price war. A month before the election, there were 10-12 active listings nearby in the low-to-mid $2,000,000s.
I wasn’t willing to lower my price. Why? Because the price wasn’t the problem – it was that the house and yard had defects, and when that happens I’d rather fix those first, and then talk about price.
I got lucky and we received a low offer of $2,350,000. When it came time to entertain our counter of $2,450,000, the buyers stuck to their original $2,350,000 and said no more. We countered again at $2,400,000, and they came around and accepted.
The closest other active listing had hit the market at $2,525,000 a couple of weeks before us – but they lowered their price to $2,455,000 a few days before we came on. And they kept lowering!
This is how it turned out for them:
This is what we can expect going forward.
There is a natural range of around 10% to 15% between the creampuffs and fixers. When there are several choices, buyers may try to pick up a creampuff for a fixer price. Some might get lucky.
We have NEVER seen a market like this, where the sellers have gained so much equity so quickly – about +60% in the last five years. The sellers of Sitio Lima paid $1,059,500 when new in 2005, and they had not hit the housing ATM to refinance a big cash-out (loan was under $300k). I don’t know what made them so motivated, and it doesn’t matter. They had a load of equity, and if it was time to sell, then it’s time to sell – bring any and all offers!
Expect the sales prices of similar tract house to be in a ~10% range in 2025.
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Do buyers need to wait until 2025, or are there some deals to be had now?
I have some unfinished business left in La Costa that buyers in search of a project should consider.
It’s a home that needs major updating to become a modern custom golf estate, but we have it priced in. The last sale nearby was in July for $2,350,000 for 2,432sf that was right on the street (not directly on the golf course like my listing is). We are 2,887sf of single-level living on a 9,800sf lot with 82-feet of golf course frontage for just $1,995,000!
We’ve had lookers and one low offer so we’re still in the hunt. Come by 12-2pm on Saturday!
I keep adding and subtracting photos in the MLS, and refreshing the remarks too:
https://www.compass.com/listing/2804-la-costa-avenue-carlsbad-ca-92009/1709962586763150545/
Oh geez, did Jim say something about prices going down?
Yes, and isn’t it inevitable in areas where there is more supply than demand?
Sure, we can always reflect on Rancho Santa Fe where having your home languish on the market every year is a rite of passage. Somebody will come along some day, won’t they?
Bill is one of the OGs from 2005 and he is more analytical than me. He is giving us a formula; when the months’ supply gets over 5, prices might decline:
The NSDCC is safely around a 3-month supply currently. We’ll see where it is in February and March!
https://open.substack.com/pub/calculatedrisk/p/question-9-for-2025-what-will-happen
If there is a surge of inventory in early 2025, what will happen?
Here are the choices:
Frenzy – With rates stubbornly high, the best case is a mini-frenzy where buyers engage in bidding wars for only the top-quality listings. Some of the insanity bleeds over to the not-so-great homes and a few get picked up. About 33% to 50% of listings sell, and the more sane, rational buyers are left shaking their heads.
Not Frenzy – There aren’t enough buyers left who are willing to pay whatever it takes, and instead the wait-and-seers get even more picky and only 1 out of 10 listings are selling.
Middle Muddle – This is the most likely scenario. Great agents list the spruced-up homes for attractive prices and there is a good, solid flow of sales happening….while most listings are languishing on the market. Those sellers want to believe that if they just wait longer, they will be rewarded. By summertime, there are unsold listings stacking up everywhere – and being ignored.
I heard about one seller who has already moved, and intends to list their home for sale in early 2025. They paid $1,800,000 for it two years ago, and when you look at the listing photos, you wonder what they were thinking. But now their zestimate is $2,475,000, so they are going to list for $2,500,000 – even though they didn’t do any work.
There will be hundreds of listings that try to pull off a miracle like that one. Pricing will seem insane.
In the first quarter of 2024 there were 763 NSDCC homes listed for sale.
If there is the 20% surge on top of last year’s inventory, it would make for 916 listings in 1Q25.
Let’s predict 1,000 first-quarter listings to account for the many re-lists coming from late-2024.
I’m going to guess only 25% to 33% of those are salable.
We know that usually there are 2/3s of the listings that sell, so it will be a weird mix that nobody sees coming. There will be a steady flow of sales but only a minority of the total homes for sale are getting lucky.
It’s the swipe-left generation, where the junkers, bad-locations, and terribly-presented homes get ignored immediately. Buyers will forget them forever unless there are major price reductions – which won’t happen because “hey, I’ve only been on the market a couple of months and I’m not going to give it away”.
What will happen as we get into March-May? The unsolds will be stacking up to the sky, causing buyers to get even more picky, while sellers are digging in on price.
Mortgage rates are too high, and I think Powell is going to finally get what he wanted – peak pricing.
The main reason? If sellers have to take 5% to 10% less, they can.
Last time, they were maxed out on ez-qual financing and had no equity. But it’s the total opposite now, and we’re going to see how bad the sellers want and need to sell. If they had to take 10% to 20% less, they could, and they would still come out with a load of cash.
Think of my last Over-List report.
In November, HALF of the NSDCC sales closed for at least $100,000 UNDER the list price!
Because the creampuffs selling for top-dollar will be a smaller minority, our lousy pricing metrics will get dragged down by the sellers who dump on price. They could have spruced up their home and/or hired a better agent in the beginning, but nobody told them it was going to be this tough to sell. Instead, they dump.
A larger price gap between the creampuffs and fixers will develop, causing more appreciation for how critical it is to have an excellent presentation AND an attractive price.
Kayla is in town so we were trying to do the more-professional looking videos, which for me means doing a more-formal introduction of myself for those new to our Instagram channel.
On the same day, Robert Reffkin appeared on CNBC and said that research shows that inventory will climb another 15% in 2025 – which is what I said! Many observers will shrug it off and declare that we’re just normalizing back to pre-pandemic levels, but pricing has increased over 60% since then:
Will prices drop to adjust for more inventory?
There probably won’t be much movement on price early in the year, because sellers will be thinking about the spring selling season blah blah and they will be much more comfortable waiting until summer before looking for the panic button. They’re not in a hurry, and they’re not going to give it away!
The one thing we know for sure: Home sellers will want to get what the last guy got. Nobody is going to be listing with a low price in the first 3-6 months of 2025.
The results will all be up to the buyers – are you willing to pay the same prices for homes when active listings are piling up unsold? Everyone will expect you to!
Here’s an example of how additional inventory causes commotion in the marketplace.
Over the last couple of years, you could put a home up for sale and not have any competing listings around you – and few, if any, recent closed sales either. Buyers and their agents had a tough time trying to mount a case about value!
Those days have passed.
Now there are guideposts for everyone to enjoy. It is imperative that sellers and their agents pay attention to the recent sales, AND what’s happening during their time on the open market.
When we listed the home above on October 17th, this home (below) was the only one in the same Davidson tract and it was in escrow. The RSF agent said he got close to his list price, but in the Ranch that means within $95,000:
One week into my listing and I’m already facing a $300,000 difference in value between mine that’s listed for $2,500,000, and the slightly smaller home with a view just up the street. Great.
I wouldn’t mind that so much if my listing was spectacular, but ours had a couple of things. Not only did mine NOT have a view, but the backyard was on the north side of the street and this time of year it gets no sun. Plus, this tree on the west side of our backyard assured buyers that any sunshine would be limited:
Backyard view from the balcony off the primary suite:
We did our usual new carpet and paint plus staging, but our sellers didn’t do everything.
You’ve heard my rule-of-thumb: Buyers being asked to pay $2,500,000 should get a built-in fridge. But we opted to go with the alternative, which is what happens when you are thinking about selling your home and your built-in fridge goes out. Do you spend the $18,000 to replace it, or just $1,800 to get by:
The kitchen was already looking somewhat dated, and a fridge that stuck out an extra foot didn’t help.
They did agree to this paint upgrade, which made a big difference. Here is the BEFORE version:
Here is the AFTER, with staging:
We’ve made the home presentable, and now it’s up to me to get it sold.
This was the active listing that I thought would help the most (because buyers are comparing the actives to decide which one to buy). It was smaller but had two bedrooms down, a pool, and visual openess even though you could see power lines in the distance. It was not a Davidson home, and it was priced at $2,525,000 – hey, thanks!
But the agent did a great job on pricing – they dropped their price right as we hit the open market:
On November 7th we get an offer of $2,350,000 from a Redfin agent from Orange County. She was in Rome, of course, and her buyers saw the property when I was doing open house so I was familiar with them.
I thought this might take a few days of negotiation before we can settle up, and I knew we had to scramble.
I had received a call from a different Orange County agent who had never been to Carlsbad, and knew nothing. He had a new listing on the same street as ours but in the Centex tract, which is way different than Davidson. He was fishing around for pricing information, so I told him he should definitely list high.
We countered our buyers at $2,450,000 on November 8th.
Three days later, they countered at their same offer price of $2,350,000, and their agent says that’s all.
But I know them, and I think they have more gas left in the tank.
We countered $2,400,000 on November 13th, and they took it.
On the same day, this hits the market – the OC guy:
At the time, my list price was still $2,500,000 so he undercuts me by 10% to quick sell, which is a very common tactic by listing agents who don’t care about their reputation and see the end of the year approaching fast. He saw me mention Davidson’s Starboard tract, and he didn’t know that he’s not in it. But at his price, it didn’t matter.
Thankfully, our buyers were also from Orange County, and their agent was still in Rome so I dodged that bullet.
Donna carefully managed them through closing and my $2,400,000 stuck!
There was a lot of other action going on in the second half of 2024 which could have complicated our chances so I feel great about our result.
Agents get hammered by solicitors – I get at least 10 calls per day. If I had been casual about the incoming call from the the Orange County agent which led me to discover he’s listing a home that could undercut me, we could have missed the opportunity to tie up our buyers when we did.
Here’s the rest of the action nearby from 2H24:
Just about everyone can find a way to live in 3,000sf to 3,500sf, so homes bigger than that have diminishing value per square foot. Looking at that list, I think we did well!
Here’s our new listing in Starboard by Davidson Communities – San Diego’s best builder!
7618 Circulo Sequoia, Carlsbad
5 br/3.5 ba, 4,000sf
15,314sf private corner lot
LP = $2,500,000
Davidson’s Starboard neighborhood is known to be among the finest in Carlsbad, and for most the Residence Two is the favorite floor plan. Its 4,000sf surrounds the private 700sf courtyard which extends the indoor/outdoor living area all on a whopping 15,314sf lot.
Five larger bedrooms include a bedroom/full bath suite downstairs which is sequestered off by itself for maximum privacy. The lushly landscaped backyard is a tropical oasis waiting to provide the new owners the perfect place to relax and enjoy the good life, plus it’s just a short walk to the community clubhouse, Olympic-sized pool, and fitness center. Hardwoods, stainless, dozens of big windows for plenty of natural light, four fireplaces, 3-car garage, and dual-zone central A/C.
Either walk the dog around the neighborhood’s 1.2-mile loop or hike/bike the miles of trails nearby! Top-rated Encinitas schools too – wow! If you are looking for an upscale luxury experience that matches your active lifestyle, check this out!
Davidson homes tend to sell for a premium – 7302 Calle Pera closed for $3,025,000 on 9/19! Other comps include 6643 Halite that closed for $2,925,000 on Aug 30th…6626 Halite that closed for $2,475,000 on Aug 30th….7290 Sitio Lima closed for $2,580,000 on 5/23/24 (backed to RSF Rd.)…smaller 7558 Circulo Sequoia on a smaller lot closed for $2,444,000 on 7/3/24…..3056 Via Romaza 3,174sf closed for $2,700,000 on May 28th.
https://www.compass.com/listing/7618-circulo-sequoia-carlsbad-ca-92009/1689390990002356577/
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