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Auction.com

If desired, Zillow could devise a new PublicMLS system – they have the format, reputation, and eyeballs to get off to a flying start.

Redfin could too, but as a brokerage they are going head-to-head with traditional realtors so it’s more likely afight would erupt, where Zillow is a third-party and could be positioned as an ally.

Auction.com is knocking on the door too - have you seen some of the heavy advertising they are doing these days?  Could they take over?

They seem to have the desire, because they are selling everything now - trustee sales, bank-owned properties, commercial properties, land, mortgage notes, and auctioning regular home sales too.

The package sounds good to sellers:

  • You set the reserve price so you don’t “give it away”.
  • You have a set timeline for selling/moving.
  • Buyer pays the 5% commission.

But will sellers get top dollar?  Convincing them won’t be easy.

If auction.com can convince the agents first, and partner together to help blaze the trail it would be smart.  Here is their first attempt:

It sold for $1,102,500 or 110% of the reserve price and closed 9/14/12.

BUT WAS THAT TOP DOLLAR?

Sellers would need conclusive proof to be convinced – it’s not enough for sellers to just get the reserve price, they want top dollar!

Let’s do what a potential seller would do, and try to estimate the value of their auction house.

But first let’s note that the sellers had been trying to sell since early 2011 – they had already exhausted the market, starting with their initial $1,649,000 in March 2011, and wound up being listed for $1,299,000 for the nine months preceeding the auction.  Based on that alone, it probably wasn’t worth $1,200,000.

Using comparable sales from that era, it looks like it may have “comped” for $1,300,000, or so, and sellers who generate their own comparison will think it that the auction gave it away:

http://www.redfin.com/myredfin/estimate/bfa0a4f27ff6e52f032e

However, those comps were inconclusive at best – the two in Monarch Bay are paying $2,400/mo HOA for that privlege, and trying to estimate the proper view premiums is just guessing.  But if you are a casual seller using the only tools available, you/re not going too look too hard – especially when you are just looking for a reason to say no.

Here’s a review by a Redfin agent calling the floor plan “unusual”:

Large lot with pool, sand/beach area, updated bathrooms, wood/tile/carpet flooring, unusual floor plan.

The sales price might have been as high as any buyer would have paid, but without easy and conclusive proof, sellers will be wary of auctions - because the last thing they are going to do is “give it away”.

It didn’t work here, and the seller is a bank:

http://www.zillow.com/homes/6809-Jade-Ln,-Carlsbad,-CA-92009_rb/#/homedetails/6809-Jade-Ln-Carlsbad-CA-92009/63774233_zpid/

The bank rejected the $825,000 high-bid from in the first auction, so they put it back on again with the same teaser opening bid of $450,000.

The ultra-low opening bids are a deterrent from being able to get to top dollar, because of the gap.  As a result, the buyers will focus solely on going high enough to hit the reserve price, and even going that high will seem like over-paying to them when the opening bid is so low.  They already resent having to tack on the 5% vig, so they will be aiming low.

The lack of conclusive proof plus the ultra-low opening bids will make regular sellers be skeptical that buyers will ever hit their top-dollar number.

Posted by on Jun 9, 2013 in Auctions, Market Buzz, Market Conditions | 0 comments

Demand, Illusion or Real?

Comments from two readers:

1.  Can you please cover one more buyer anxiety – this one’s personal for me? I think that, after the artificial supply suppression and/or institutional investors are gone, the prices will drop. However, I’m not sure how far. So, my fear is that the prices may drop too far, which will make my purchase decision a very bad one. This is especially valid for some investment properties I’m thinking to buy.

2.  JTR, I was also thinking about the “illusion of demand”.  As both an investor and a house hunter, I see things from different points of view.  The conclusion I have come to of late is that in many of the recent bidding war or multiple offer stuations, lets say 10 offers, most likely 7 or 8 of them are from speculators/investors/flippers, with only 2 or 3 from end users, and the end users more often than not get out bid.  When this round of properties get shined up with marginal upgrades and are relisted to make a profit, will the end users still be there and will they be willing to (or more to the point, able to) pay the x+ the investor/speculator/flipper needs to make their profit?

My thoughts on each:

#1 -  Traditional investment properties are valued on their income, so you would have to believe that rents would drop for the corresponding property values to decline.  With the high difficulty of purchasing a home today, the rents should stay strong for the foreseeable future.  I don’t see any artificial supply suppression or holdbacks of normal investment properties, none getting foreclosed really.

#2  Flippers have been very successful around NSDCC, even when paying retail - but they have caught the market in the perfect upswing.  I think we will stop seeing short-sales, REO, and flippers within a year, and just see the occasional default.  It’s doubtful that the debt-tax exemption will be extended again after it expires this year, and any homeowner who has hung on this long will want to reap some equity return, or go back to making payments.

More thoughts:

An employee of Bank of America told me last week that they are finding a way to keep everyone in their house who wants to stay.  Only those borrowers who completely give up are getting foreclosed, and I’m sure every bank is taking their sweet time with the process:

San Diego County Filings

The demand is still fairly deep, and with virtually no bargains coming to market, those who are selling are reaping a nice windfall.  We got caught up in a ferocious bidding war yesterday on this property:

http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-130025750-1815_Meadowhaven_Ct_Encinitas_CA_92024

It was listed for $895,000, though the last three model-match sales were $670,000, $765,000, and $800,000 (the $670,000 was the most recent, in January).

There were eight offers at, or above list price, and all had at least 20% down.  The seller took a full-price cash offer that will close in 15 days – and left at least $50,000 on the table for that convenience.

The worst part is that there are six other losers out there for us to compete with on the next one!

Posted by on May 30, 2013 in Market Buzz, Market Conditions, Real Estate Investing | 7 comments

Duration of Frenzy

A frequent question is, “How long will it last?”.  It depends on how long the demand lasts, which at this point appears to be deep and wide.

There are sectors of today’s buyer pool that are still waiting for their shot:

1. Low-Down-Payment buyers.

You can be well-qualified and have no trouble getting any mortgage you want – conventional or FHA/VA.  But if your offers include a smaller down payment and you end up in a bidding war, you are going to lose.

Listing agents tell the sellers that it is safer to take a cash, or big down payment deal, even if it means taking less money overall.

As a result, the low-down buyers are still waiting in the wings.

Here are the percentages of detached-home sales each quarter that were financed using FHA/VA/CalVet loans in San Diego County, and NSDCC:

graph (30)

You can see how tough it is on those with low down payments!

2.  Move-Up Buyers

Many move-up buyers are still waiting, but for different reasons.

If you want to use the equity in your current house to buy the next, good luck making an offer contingent on selling your home.  Those offers go behind the low-down-payments, and you won’t even get a call back.

But if you can figure out how to finance the next purchase without selling, then you still have to find a home good enough to make it worth it, AND be willing to pay enough to win the bidding war.

My rule-of-thumb is that you have to spend 50% more on the new home to make it worth the hassle and expense of moving.  A 50% bump causes these buyers to be pickier than those who don’t own locally yet, and whose desperation level is a tad higher – the “homeless” buyers are inclined to pay more than those who are somewhat comfortable with their current house.

3.  Empty-nesters

According to the census, there are roughly 368,539 people in San Diego County over 67 years old.  Today, there are 1,553 single-story homes for sale – in the county!

Every year that goes by, more baby boomers are thinking about down-sizing, and all deserve to be in a single level.  But they will have to wait, and eventually many will give up and do the stay-in-place aging just because the supply is so limited.

4.  Buyers Who Are Too Busy

You have to devote a major search effort to find the right home, and to make you comfortable enough to bid high enough to win.  The speed at which homes are selling is increasing!

Here is the graph of national stats:

marketspeed

In San Diego it’s faster – 30% of April sales found a buyer in the first week, and 49% found a buyer in the first two weeks!

We will have a very active market place for some time to come – my guess is for at least 1-2 years, and probably longer.  Prices will ebb and flow, but demand and sales should be very strong.

Posted by on May 24, 2013 in Frenzy, Market Buzz, Market Conditions, Thinking of Buying?, Thinking of Selling?, Why You Should Hire Jim as your Buyer's Agent, Why You Should List With Jim | 6 comments

Peak Frenzy 2

It will be difficult to determine the frenzy velocity because you will keep seeing eye-popping sales that make you think that the market is still on fire.

This is where evaluating the features of each house will come in handy.  The high-value targets – great locations, big ocean views, one-story, etc. – will be the ones that still fetch crazy prices. Why? Because frenzied-up buyers care less about price when they fall in love.

For example – the highest sale this year in this neighborhood was $795,000, and Richard closed one in March for $560,000.

But they asked $919,900 for this – and it went pending after 23 DOM:

You have to gauge whether each property deserves frenzy pricing, or is just hoping to get caught up in the excitement - get good help!

Posted by on May 13, 2013 in Bubbleinfo TV, Frenzy, Market Buzz, Market Conditions | 1 comment

Getting Priced Out

Prices are moving up rapidly on the lower-end of each market.

People complain that there is no inventory, but part of the reason is that sellers are pricing much higher. Buyers in the mid-to-higher-end of each market will get a smaller house or yard, but those on the lower-end are quickly getting priced out altogether.

Here are the number of detached homes sold in the last 12 months, and the number of active listings today:

Town and Price Point #Closed last 12 mo. #ACT Listings
Oceanside Under $300K
417
5
Carlsbad Under $600K
445
7
Encinitas Under $700K
186
7
Carmel Vly Under $900K
263
11
La Jolla Under $1.1M
118
10

Where it stops nobody knows, but you can expect the bidding-war intensity to be extremely hot on the lower-ends of each market.

Posted by on May 3, 2013 in Bidding Wars, Frenzy, Inventory, Market Buzz, Market Conditions, North County Coastal | 19 comments

RE Advertising Needs Scrutiny

Our friends at reason.com shine the spotlight on this dubious topic; realtor advertising claims - an excerpt:

A recent newspaper included a glossy magazine with an article urging me to run out and buy a house — fast!

always be closing“Thanks to historically low interest rates, affordability is at an all-time high,” the article said. “I highly recommend taking advantage of this opportunity before conditions change — although interest rates are still hovering just above their lowest rate, they will start to climb. In this climate, it’s absolutely crucial that you’re prepared to move quickly.”

This article was written not by some journalist but by the president and CEO of Douglas Elliman Real Estate, Dottie Herman. Nothing against Herman or her company, but the article, and the lack of scrutiny it received, highlight one of the puzzling aspects of the financial crisis and its aftermath — bankers were hit with new regulations and called before congressional hearings, but the real estate industry has escaped largely intact.

Herman’s assessment of housing “affordability” should be taken with a Everest-sized mountain of salt. The New York Times reported back in January of 2009 that the National Association of Realtors had declared “housing affordability was at an all-time high in December.” That was December of 2008 they were talking about; it’s now 2013, more than four years later, and the real estate industry is telling us again that “affordability is at an all-time high.”

Similar skepticism should be applied to her predictions about interest rates. Federal Reserve officials reportedly don’t expect to raise them until 2015. Even then there will be strong pressure from Treasury not to raise them much, because doing so would wreck the federal budget by increasing the government’s borrowing costs. If Dottie Herman really knew what’s going to happen to interest rates, you’d think she’d be trading bonds rather than selling real estate.

Her article bases the affordability claim on an example of “assuming a 30-year fixed mortgage with 10% down.” If these houses she is hawking are as affordable as she claims they are, you’d think the borrowers might be able to scrape together a 20 percent down payment.

There may be some formula by which housing affordability is at an all-time high, but to New Yorkers who have seen the nominal prices of houses and apartments double or triple or more in the past decade or two, this is the sort of claim that will elicit a chuckle, if not a snort or an eyeroll.

So is the admonition to“move quickly.” Most real estate brokers are paid by the deal, not by the hour, so if the buyers rush forward with “the strongest offer,” as Herman advises, it makes things easier for the brokers. If you are a buyer, though, you may get a better deal by being patient and waiting the seller out.

If this were a oil-company executive talking up his own interests, or a banker, the press or politicians would be tearing his claims apart. But for some reason, the real estate brokers get a pass. Maybe, as others have suggested, it’s because everyone’s mom’s friend seems to be a real estate broker, while Wall Street bankers or derivatives traders seem to be more remote and better paid.

Read more here:

http://reason.com/archives/2013/04/29/why-doesnt-the-real-estate-industry-face

 

Posted by on Apr 29, 2013 in Listing Agent Practices, Market Buzz | 1 comment

When-To-Sell Indicators

For the daredevil sellers who recognize that this is an ideal time to sell, yet want to wait and see if the market will goose itself higher, what are the indicators to watch?

1. We’ve been tracking the NSDCC active inventory this year, and it hasn’t been growing much – the new listings that are coming on the market are being matched by new pendings. If the active inventory starts to grow, then we know that buyers are hesitating about the pricing.

2. The average-days-on-market is your buyer-desperation index.  How quickly are homes flying off the market?

graph (17)

We have ramped up to warp speed currently, but if this starts to falter, you know that buyers are catching their breath about the pricing.

3.  The number of sales is a great leading indicator, but their close date is actually 30-60 days past the decision date.  New pendings aren’t that reliable either because they can fall-out.

Let’s just compare sales to the same average-days-on-market, and call the difference the desperation gap:

graph (18)

Sales are remarkably higher, and the average DOM is dropping sharply.

Let’s call the current condition the full-tilt boogie!

On a side note, it is refreshing to see that open houses – once the scorn of realtors who thought they were good for nothing – are now being utilized as the most effective way to expose a new listing to the market.

As my Dad would say, “Well, I’ll be darned!”.

Posted by on Apr 13, 2013 in Average DOM, Fraud, Market Buzz, Market Conditions, North County Coastal, Sales and Price Check | 3 comments

No Appraisal Contingency

Sellers need a listing agent who can handle this effectively:

Becoming a homeowner may be getting more difficult for San Diego buyers.

With multiple offers and low housing inventory, sellers are starting to ask buyers to submit offers without an appraisal contingency, meaning the down payment must cover the difference between the offer and the appraisal, if the appraisal comes in low.

“It is becoming more and more common as the shortage of inventory and the increase in buyer demand has continued through the spring and buying season,” said Maria Peña-Morales, owner of Team Q of Re/Max Ranch & Beach.

intensefocus“Within the last month, I see it occur even more. The reason I think sellers are requesting it is because they want to remove any chance that the buyer will back out. If the buyers only qualify for a certain dollar amount and the appraisal comes in below, the seller could be stuck putting it back in the market.”

Joe Bertocchini, director of residential real estate at University of San Diego’s Burnham-Moores Center for Real Estate, said this action by the sellers could be a result of the selling “frenzy” that’s going on, with properties “flying off the shelf in less than 24 hours.”

“Sellers are looking for who the most probable close is,” Bertocchini said. “They look at the offers for who is paying all cash or closing with no contingencies, so they can close without any hiccups that might prohibit the sale of the property.”

Soledad Reaves, a real estate consultant with Re/Max Associates, said that in the past three months, four sellers have asked buyers to remove appraisal contingencies from their offers.

One of Reaves’ clients offered $285,000 for a condominium, which was high. The seller said there were plenty of offers and asked the buyers to remove the appraisal contingency.

“If you don’t do that, you’re out of the race,” Reaves said.

In that particular case, her client countered with a lower offer and removed the appraisal contingency. Another bidder offered a higher amount and her client’s offer wasn’t accepted.

In another case, a broker responded to an offer from one of Reaves’ clients, saying there were 14 offers on the property, and the price on the offers reached a level where the sellers were concerned it wouldn’t appraise. The broker informed Reaves of the requested purchase price and said the seller wanted a “significant” down payment and no appraisal contingency.

Once the trend caught on, it started becoming more prevalent, especially within the past month, Peña-Morales said.

“The more people who start to do it, the more it is continued,” Peña-Morales said.

“I think it’s pretty risky business if you’re going that route just because you’re not leaving yourself much of an out when going into escrow,” Bertocchini said.

But with so little inventory on the market and such tough competition, Reaves said buyers are willing to take that risk.

“Some people have been looking for quite some time. They’re tired of looking and are willing to pay the difference between the appraisal value and the offer,” Reaves said.

“I’m also seeing agents that, in their offers, write that they’re willing to pay $1,000 above any of the higher offers. It’s a very discouraging thing for buyers … who (don’t) have that much money, who are just starting to become homebuyers and they don’t have the cash, or have limited cash.”

Buyers who have been looking for a whole year are watching home values increase, interest rates remain low and monthly mortgages compete with what they pay in rent.

Bertocchini agreed that in this situation, most regular homebuyers are not able to move forward without that type of contingency, making this market more difficult for them. The competition with investors is “frustrating” for other qualified buyers, Peña-Morales said. And there’s no appraisal when there are cash buyers.

“The buyers on the market now are seeing multiple offers — 10, 15, 20 offers — primarily in the $400,000 to $800,000 range. And they’re getting beat out because someone else had the same dollar amount but was able to remove the appraisal contingency,” Peña-Morales said.

Peña-Morales said this also happened in 2005 and 2006, when people were willing to pay more than the asking price and remove the appraisal contingency, knowing they had to come up with additional cash.

“My concern is how it affects the housing market. Back in 2005, 2006, 2007, we began to see accelerating, and unnaturally accelerating, increases in sales prices and the appraisal value not being there,” Peña-Morales said.

Peña-Morales said she expects sellers to continue to ask for the appraisal contingency to be removed until there is more inventory on the market.

“Just because it’s relatively new that we’re seeing it, I don’t know if it’s something that’s going to continue,” Bertocchini said. “The way the market is behaving, I think anything is possible. I don’t think it’s bad for the entire market, but I will say it’s going to put an additional stress or additional frustration for individuals who are going to buy homes.”

From sddt.com

Posted by on Apr 11, 2013 in Bidding Wars, Frenzy, Market Buzz, Why You Should List With Jim | 1 comment

Carmel Valley Going Ballistic

Around Carmel Valley, 92130 it looks like we regained the ground lost over the last couple of years, and buyers are back to paying $340/sf.

On the MLS, there are 72 active listings, and their median list price is $1,422,999 – with only 18 houses for sale under $1,000,000!

The median list price of the detached homes sold over the last 90 days is $922,000, with 64 of 111 sales under $1,000,000.

The lower-end is cooking, yet seller enthusiasm is causing more and more to push into the higher ranges in hopes of striking it rich:

http://www.redfin.com/zipcode/92130

Buyers were probably resigned to paying a little more – will they break out of the range and follow sellers up the ladder?

It happened like that in 2003, and we saw 20% appreciation in one year.  It could happen again, and if it does, you’ll see it in the prime areas!

Other areas:

 

SE Carlsbad sellers caught on a little later, but are on the same path – and the Encinitas graph was very similar to this too:

http://www.redfin.com/zipcode/92009

It means that buyers will either have to step up further, or we’ll be experiencing the Big Glut over the next few weeks.

Rancho Santa Fe knows the feeling – they always have a glut of homes for sale. In 92067 there are 203 homes for sale today, with an average market time of 131 days, and there were 13 homes sold in the last 30 days:

http://www.redfin.com/zipcode/92067

Will all areas end up looking like Rancho?  Yes, it is very likely that sellers will price too high and not adjust, thuinking that the selling season is coming later to bail them out.  They are already way ahead of buyers, and only the premium properties have a chance of selling for retail-plus.

Statistically it will look like 10% to 20% appreciation of the few homes selling!

Redfin allows use of their graphs.

Posted by on Apr 7, 2013 in Carmel Valley, Market Buzz, Market Conditions | 3 comments

Frenzy Is Not Universal

Let’s look at the detached-home sales closed over the last 30 days and compare the sales prices to the list prices.

Carmel Valley, 92130 Feb 28 – Mar 30

Category 2012 2013 Chg
# of Sales
34
49
+44%
Median SP
$927K
$885K
-5%
Avg $/sf
$324
$355
+10%
SP:LP
95%
98%
+3%
Avg Days on Mkt
65
38
-42%

(20 of 49 went pending in 9 days or less)

13 of 49 sold for over list price (or over top of range):

$0-$10,000 over list: 4

$11,000 – $25,000 over list: 6

$26,000 – $50,000 over list: 2

$51,000+ over list: 1

Carmel Valley is arguably the hottest market in the county, yet only 27% of the sales went over list price.  Less than 10% (3 of 49) went crazy-over, paying more than $26,000 above list price.  The hottest action was in the lower range too, only 3 of the 20 sales over $1,000,000 were above list price.

A good example here on how the median sales price is more about the mix of houses selling than being an accurate reflection of pricing – will anyone in CV believe that their house went down 5% in price over the last year?

Three of the 49 sales were double-ended (buyers were represented by the listing agent), plus two that were sold prior to listing input.

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SE Carlsbad, 92009 Feb 28 – Mar 30

Category 2012 2013 Chg
# of Sales
54
52
-4%
Median SP
$615K
$757K
+23%
Avg $/sf
$238
$266
+12%
SP:LP
96%
98%
+2%
Avg Days on Mkt
87
42
-52%

(21 of 52 went pending in 9 days or less)

13 of 52 sold for over list price (or over top of range):

$0-$10,000 over list: 5

$11,000 – $25,000 over list: 4

$26,000 – $50,000 over list: 2

$51,000+ over list: 2

SE Carlsbad is loaded with newer tract houses, and about half of the 92009 is in the Encinitas/San Dieguito School District. Yet only 25% of the sales went over list price.  Less than 8% (4 of 52) went crazy-over, paying more than $26,000 over list price.  The hottest action was in the lower range too, there were no overbids once the sales prices got above $860,000.

Four of the 52 sales were double-enders.

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The frenzy is focused on the premium products – the renovated houses in good locations with attractive prices.  If the frenzy is not for you, there is still plenty of opportunity, especially if you like fixers and/or are patient enough to let the OPTs sit for weeks or months!

Posted by on Mar 30, 2013 in Carmel Valley, Frenzy, Market Buzz, Market Conditions | 3 comments