Referral Fees

Paying referral fees is a standard practice in the realtor business.

Are you thinking of moving to a new town and need an introduction to a realtor there?  Your agent here will track one down for you, and that agent will pay them a referral fee, which used to be 20% to 25% of the gross commission. The challenge? Getting good help!

Great agents don’t need any assistance with procuring new clients, and they might reluctantly pay a 20% or 25% referral fee only if the new client is motivated and in the upper regions, price-wise.

Less-experienced agents are willing to pay out higher referral fees, which doesn’t do the client any favors.

What we do is tough work, and fewer and fewer people want to do it.

It’s so hard to hire, train, and retain good/great agents now that many real estate companies are just resorting to referring clients, and taking a substantial referral fee instead.

Zillow has staff taking the incoming calls, and qualifying the leads before sending them to their Flex agents. Their referral fee is now 40% of the gross commission, AND they want buyers to use Zillow Home Loans too. Their Flex agents who send their buyers to ZHL will be rewarded with more leads, and vice versa:

Less than five percent of the U.S. real estate agent population works with Zillow (with far fewer Flex agents), and Zillow only touches around three percent of U.S. real estate transactions. They are running a small, exclusive ecosystem of agents that are willing to play by their rules, which now includes tight integration with Zillow Home Loans.

You’ve probably seen the TV ads by Homelight? The ones that pitch teaming you up with the best agents in town? Well, at least with the best agents who are willing to pay them a 30% cut of the gross commission.

Now Redfin is giving up on their agent-employee program, and they are testing the idea of hiring agents on commission splits, instead of salary and paying them “up to 75%”. It’s doubtful they will pay many of their agents the full 75% split. It’s just another way for them to get referral fees of 30% to 50%.

None of the referral fees are disclosed to the client, and it’s never discussed of how the size of the fee will impact the quality of the agent service you receive.

But most of all, any thought of commissions dropping will be fleeting at best. Commissions need to stay high in order to pay the larger referral fees!

0% Commissions

Currently, every listing agent is required to offer some sort of buyer-agent compensation on the MLS. Zillow and Redfin publish those commission amounts on every listing now, so they are all out in the open.

Today, there are 79 homes for sale between La Jolla and Carlsbad in the $2,000,000-$3,000,000 price range. Thirty percent of those listing agents are offering less than 2.5% commissions to the buyer-agents.

Outsiders who see that will assume that commissions are finally starting to drop, after all these years.

But the vast majority of those listing agents are probably still taking 5% to 6% commissions, and offering 2% or less to the buyer-agent (and more for themselves).

If the listing agent is supremely talented and brings special skills to the transaction, then it would be understandable. But I’ve been a buyer-agent on listings that are offering less than 2.5%, and they’re not different. Virtually every listing agent still practices the Three-P marketing plan: Put a sign out front, Put it in the MLS, and Pray.

There are hundreds of multiple listing services in America. So far, only a few have removed the requirement of offering a buyer-agent commission.  But the NAR lawsuits are going to change that, and soon every MLS will permit 0% commissions to be offered to the buyer-agents (hoping buyers will pay their own agent).

The listing agents who have little or no repsect for the buyer-agents will keep offering them lower and lower commissions. Eventually, their rate will get down to zero or close.

Will sellers figure it out?

Sellers focus on the total commission. They don’t do enough transactions to know that the amount the listing agent pays to the buyer-agent will impact the sale. It is a bounty offered to encourage the sale of the house, and when market conditions are soggy, it is better to pay buyer-agents more commission, not less.

In the lawsuits, they will discuss agents steering their buyers to homes that pay higher commissions. It’s why the search portals publish the commission rates now so buyers can track whether their agent shows any bias based on the commission rate being offered.

It’s why the industry will be racing towards 0% commissions offered to the buyer-agents.

Eventually, the DOJ will probably step in and insist that ALL sellers pay 0% commission to the buyer-agents to insure there is no chance of steering. Instead, listing agents will just offer them spiffs under the table in a softer market or when the house is ‘unique’.

Until then, the listing-agent teams are going to keep offering lower and lower commissions (if any) to the buyer-agents – who will then try to get their buyers to pay them something….anything!

At the same time, the listing agents will be encouraging buyers to avoid paying a buyer-agent commission altogether by coming direct to the listing agent instead. Their in-house assistant-agents will attempt a faux representation of the buyer but it will just be a novice clerk who processes their paperwork.

Boom! The seller didn’t have to pay a buyer-agent commission – making these lawsuits worth it – and instead the listing agent keeps the whole commission. If buyer-agents can somehow wedge themselves into the deal, then great, but will the buyer pay them too, when it doesn’t seem necessary?

Mark my words – this will be standard fare in the next year or two.

Buyer-Agent’s Commission and Steering

I have mentioned repeatedly that the buyer-agent is a dead man walking. All forces within the industry are combining to push the buyer-agent out of the equation, and home buyers will be worse off because they will only have faux representation when buying directly from the listing agents.

Everything is negotiable……well, except the buyer-agent commission. From the Code of Ethics:

The Code of Ethics Standard of Practice 16-16 prohibits buyer-brokers from “using the terms of an offer to purchase to attempt to modify the listing broker’s offer of compensation.” Thus, the buyer-broker cannot attempt to condition the purchase of a home on the seller-broker’s agreement to adjust the amount of compensation offered to the buyer-broker.

Second, the Code of Ethics’s Standard of Practice 3-2 requires that any modification in the compensation offered to the buyer-broker “must be communicated to the [buyer-broker] prior to the time that [buyer-broker] submits an offer to purchase the property. And once a buyer-broker “has submitted an offer to purchase the property, the listing broker may not attempt to unilaterally modify the offered compensation.”

Third, Case Interpretation #16-15 advises that any negotiations regarding the buyer-broker’s commission “should be completed prior to the showing of the property.”

The buyer-agent is NOT allowed to negotiate their commission during the offer process!

What’s worse is that any negotiation of the commission must happen BEFORE the home is shown to the buyer. How many listing agents will agree to pay more commission before the buyer sees the home? The answer is zero.

The pending lawsuits against realtors are all about the seller being required to pay the buyer-agent’s commission. Miraculously, ReMax and Anywhere have already settled, and the whole thing could get resolved shortly. But it has been univeral among observers that the end result will be that home sellers will not be required to pay ANY commission to the buyer-agents. It will be optional instead.

Two things will happen:

  1. The buyer-agents will be even more likely to steer their clients to where they can get a commission.
  2. There will be even more shenanigans by listing agents.

Rob lays it out here, starting around the 26-minute mark:

https://www.vendoralley.com/2023/09/28/industry-relations-podcast-the-re-max-settlement-and-what-happens-next/

It means that the buyer-agents will have to either live with the commission that the seller is offering (if any) and steer their buyers to those homes, or have an agreement with their buyer to be paid directly by them. While that sounds nice, it is a complete change to the business and most agents won’t be able to justify being paid for their services. When buyers can just go direct to the listing agent for free – which the listing agents will be advertising – they will be very reluctant to be contractually obligated to pay a buyer-agent.

San Diego Case-Shiller Index, July

The local index is about where it was last month AND last year at this time.

It is 3% below the peak of last May, and +9.6% year-to-date.

It wouldn’t surprise me if it slides downward ~3% the rest of 2023, then up ~3% in the first half of 2024, then down ~3% in the second half of 2024….recession or not.

Because rates won’t be going down until 2025 (at least), pricing should stay rangebound. Without wild swings in pricing, the buyers can focus on finding the perfect home without compromise.

When there are bidding wars and rapidly-rising prices, buyers are prone to just grabbing something and paying whatever it takes. Without those, sellers and agents have to be really good at selling homes – which hasn’t been required over the last several years.

‘Reviewing Offers As Received’

It is common to see the same words or phrases in the MLS descriptions.

A few years ago, the fancy new buzz word was ‘boasts’; a word realtors would use to describe the home’s best features. The word got overused, and eventually we would read that a home “boasts three bedrooms, and two baths”, as if that was something special.

There are two buzz-phrases you hear regularly these days.

Watch how many times you see, ‘this one checks all the boxes’ and ‘this is the one you’ve been waiting for’.

For those who have access to the confidential remarks, you will see a third phrase currently that is very curious: “Reviewing Offers As Received”

Isn’t that what you are supposed to do? Isn’t that required by law? I think so!

The phrase is probably a response to inquiries from buyer-agents wondering about their full-price offer they just sent in. Sometimes the listing agent will tell you that they have a specific date in mind to review offers with the sellers, or they are reviewing them as received, one by one.

What the buyer-agents really want to know is….when are you going to respond? How long will my buyers and I have to sit on pins and needles while you dink around with no strategy or game plan and instead just play around with the process?

The reason buyer-agents don’t like asking that question is because they cringe at the thought of having to hear one more time the same answer given by listing agents in almost all cases: ‘I don’t know’.

You get a very specific answer from me: “Should we have multiple offers, everyone will receive a highest-and-best counter-offer from us on Monday, and we hope to select a winner by Tuesday night”. It gives buyers and agents alike a specific idea of what to expect, and they can start planning their response.

It’s part of the slow-motion auction – full transparency includes an clear outline of the process, and how to win the game. Our counter-offer will level the playing field by balancing out the other terms, and ensure that everyone knows the winner will be determined by price.

It may sound simple and obvious, but I haven’t seen any other agents embracing full transparency.

I have another example happening now. The listing agent said they have already received one offer and expect a couple of more. When I asked how they will handle it, I got the usual uncomfortable laugh and a vague, joking response of doing something about it next week.

Sellers deserve better. Buyers deserve better. Agents deserve better.

But no one ever says or does anything about it, and so it continues.

Saturday Open-House Report

We were flooded with buyers today!

A constant flow of 3-6 groups at a time all to see our hot new PQ listing off the 56 and only one exit down from CCHS. Talk about a convenient location – within five minutes you can get to top-rated K-12 schools, shopping, grocery, and freeway on-ramps without hearing any road noise. Perfect!

https://www.compass.com/app/listing/13328-deer-canyon-place-san-diego-ca-92129/1278342465120164953

For homes in this location, the demand is overwhelming the supply. We’ve already received two offers over list, and we’re just getting started. The way it sounds, I think there will be 8-10 offers.

How do I handle it?

I am as upfront and forthright as possible, and I discuss how the process works with everyone:

MLS Shenanigans

We’ve covered the ways that buyers and buyer-agents are getting battered by listing agents.

Making homes tough to show, no transparency about offers and bidding-war process (if any), below-market commissions, sandbagging listings in-house for days or weeks before exposing to general public, etc.

Some can be chalked up to inexperience or clerical errors, but most are a deliberate attempt by the listing agents to box out other agents, and limit the number of offers.

Here’s another one: MyStateMLS.com.

Agents input their listings onto this website only, which gets the property onto Zillow and Realtor.com where waiting buyers might see it. Typically, the buyer-agents are using their local MLS to track the new listings, so they’re not watching Zillow or Realtor.com (and certainly not some unknown MLS website).

It has to be a deliberate attempt by the listing agents to limit the exposure to fellow agents, with the intent to reach buyers directly and double-end the commission.

Racing Towards Single Agency, Part 3

Won’t somebody just produce an all-encompassing (pardon the pun) website to facilitate homes sales? There is a new disruptor every month with their unique solution, and it’s ALWAYS born out of their frustration with buying a home recently so they are happy to bash agents and the current process.

But consumers have become more adept at searching online, and because there are so few quality homes for sale in 2023, their standards will probably relax further as their frustration mounts. Pretty soon, they will accept just about any risk, just to get their home search over with.

If a bigger company with some brand recognition put together the right website at the perfect moment when the consumers’ frustration is mounting and agents are flailing, it might catch fire. Something like this:


https://www.opendoor.com/exclusives/faq

I’d prefer an auction company because it would be more effective at selling homes fairly, and for top dollar.  But the winner will be the company that advertises the most.

Racing Towards Single Agency, Part 2

Seen on social media

I spoke to a few agents on the broker preview yesterday about business this year, and the common theme was that agents are have big trouble finding people who want to sell their home. It suggests that the inventory of quality homes will be extremely low this year.

What happens, when that happens?

It means that when listing agents get a hot new property to sell, they will be tempted to find their own buyer first, and/or spoon it to a select few of their agent friends, and then maybe expose it to their office mates before putting it on the MLS/open market.

The extinction of buyer-agents is well underway.

As the market tightens further, more listing agents will be tempted to sandbag their listing and not put it on the open market.  Look what happened to the agent this week who received 20+ offers (they told me the final count was 30 offers). After the listing was put on the open market, the flood of offers caused regrets about the workload, so they just grabbed one and shut it down.

Last night I popped off in the comment section about how the business gets shadier every year.

Here’s proof – not every listing with zero days on market was sandbagged, but let’s face it. If you mark your listing pending within a few hours of it going live on the MLS, you didn’t get full exposure.

NSDCC Annual Closed Sales With Zero Days On Market

Year
Annual Detached-Home Sales, Total
# With Zero Days on Market
Percentage
2016
3,107
84
2.6%
2017
3,084
99
3.2%
2018
2,799
84
3.0%
2019
2,834
100
3.5%
2020
3,190
116
3.6%
2021
3,184
173
5.4%
2022
1,939
124
6.4%

When agents see other agents touting their off-market business, they think it must be ok, so they do it too. It feeds on itself, especially when the allure of double-ending the commission is so strong in a tight-inventory environment.

This disease among agents is everywhere. You will notice it at every open house you attend – the agents conducting the open house can’t wait to tell you about their off-market opportunities to get you to sign up.  You’ll see it mentioned on social media daily – agents don’t think there is anything wrong with promoting off-market deals. Heck, everyone is doing it!

I regularly ask the agents who have a quality home for sale how they will handle multiple offers, and the answer is always the same: “I don’t know”, before they stumble and mumble something about the seller will decide (oh, thanks for that!) so the agents don’t get blamed for the end result. It’s embarrassing that they don’t have any strategy, and want to leave the door open for shenanigans later. No wonder they want to do an off-market deal, with no scrutiny.

Because no one is doing anything to intervene, the off-market deals will continue to be an accepted practice, and exacerbate the trend towards single agency (and the extinction of buyer-agents). Within the next year or two, every buyer will just go to the listing agent and take their beating.

Racing Towards Single Agency

I don’t think anyone in the realtor industry recognizes the harm being done to the consumers by squeezing out the buyer-agents. The good ones offer a valuable service by assisting homebuyers with the complexities of purchasing a home; a challenge that is tougher than ever in 2023.

For example, let’s say you come across a good buy – what do you do with this?

This weekend, the listing agent got 20+ offers and shut it down. Then he just accepted one. Game over.

None of the other buyers got a chance to win. But at least they had a chance to offer.

If buyers were directed to the listing agent, do you think the realtor teams would have 20+ buyer-agents ready to serve everyone who wants to make an offer? Or would they just write offers with the first couple of buyers and shut it down?

I can’t tell you how many times we see in the confidential remarks, “PLEASE NO MORE SHOWINGS”. We already have an environment where listing agents believe there is no incentive to keep taking offers – especially if/when they already wrote an offer with their own buyer and will double-end the commission.

It’s only going to get worse. Forces within the industry are conspiring to eliminate buyer-agents altogether, and are conspiring to create a system that makes it even harder for buyers to get a fair chance. The local MLS companies are launching a new search portal that directs all inquiries back to the listing agent.

Do you think an outside buyer-agent will have any chance of selling that listing now? If multiple buyers contact the listing agent, then what happens?

Here is the article:

https://www.realestatenews.com/2023/01/24/leading-mlss-come-together-to-launch-consumer-home-search-portal

An excerpt:

With the goal to “promote a more competitive marketplace,” three of the largest multiple listing services announced plans to launch a new consumer home search portal this spring.

Called Nestfully, the website will be owned and operated by California Regional MLS (CRMLS) and Bright MLS, under a joint venture, and REColorado has signed on as a participant. The founding MLSs designed the site and its features, and real estate tech company Constellation1 is providing technology services.

Key points:

  • Nestfully is expected to debut by April 1 with listings from a pool of 240,000 agents and brokerages that are MLS subscribers.
  • Agents will get leads at no cost, and consumers will have direct access to the property’s listing agent.
  • “With Nestfully, we believe we are in the best position to deliver what agents want and need in this changing market,” said Brian Donnellan, CEO and president of Bright MLS.

With the goal to “promote a more competitive marketplace,” three of the largest multiple listing services announced plans to launch a new consumer home search portal this spring.

Called Nestfully, the website will be owned and operated by California Regional MLS (CRMLS) and Bright MLS, under a joint venture, and REColorado has signed on as a participant. The founding MLSs designed the site and its features, and real estate tech company Constellation1 is providing technology services.

“Nestfully is run by MLSs whose primary goal is to promote an open, clear, and competitive marketplace,” Art Carter, CEO at CRMLS, told Real Estate News. “We are a neutral source working in the best interests of consumers, brokers and their agents.”

For agents, Nestfully offers a financial advantage over advertising-powered portals. The site will not have ads, and leads will be delivered directly to agents and their brokerages at no cost, “taking a significantly escalating cost out of the existing system,” Carter said.

Agents and brokerages companies will also have access to a lead management platform on Nestfully with lead tracking, analytics and metrics that gauge success.

“We believe we are in the best position to deliver what agents want and need in this changing market,” said Brian Donnellan, CEO and president of Bright MLS, adding that the new search engine will “serve as an extension of the agents’ marketing initiatives to promote listings, attract qualified lead prospects and forward these opportunities directly to the agent at no cost.”

The goal is not to monetize the consumer search, he said, but to help answer consumer questions about properties for sale and connect potential buyers with property listing agents or with a local agent or broker in their communities.

Asked in an interview if MLSs will be compensated for the initiative, a company spokesperson said that “financial arrangements are not being disclosed.”

https://www.realestatenews.com/2023/01/24/leading-mlss-come-together-to-launch-consumer-home-search-portal

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Will they advertise enough to compete with the established search portals? They will need to promote some new whiz-bang feature…..which will be that buyers should go direct to the listing agent, and use their fancy new portal to do so.

I don’t think they have a clue – or they are flat out ignoring – how they will be putting buyers at a bigger disadvantage, and destroying our business as we’ve known it for the last 100 years.

An auction company would fix everything though!

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