We have buyers who found a home they would like to purchase….but they need to sell their house to make the deal. We scrambled to get it prepared, and we were ready to hit the open market this weekend – but the forecast is for more rain.
Normally, we would wait until the following weekend.
But the listing agent of the house they want to buy said there has been a renewed uptick in activity this week (it’s been an active listing for three months), and yesterday they received a non-contingent offer. Thankfully it was lower.
With the Fed threatening to raise rates higher, he and his seller agreed that this could be their moment. Instead of trying to come to terms with the existing offer, they are going to do open house in the rain this weekend to see if there are any other contenders.
So we will submit our contingent offer today, and do open house this weekend too!
Our listing is perfect for the extended family who want to live the good life in the country!
16390 Whispering Oaks Drive, West Ramona
6 br/4 ba, 3,801sf
Get away from it all and move to the country! Bring everyone with you too! This 4br/2ba one-story house has newer kitchen and baths, full solar, pool, views of the hills, circular driveway with lots of parking (RVs!), plus TWO ADUs – including a new tiny house – all on 2.35 acres! Total of 6 bedrooms and 4 full bathrooms – perfect for multi-gen! Gated community on the west end and only 3.5 miles from Poway Road.
LP = $1,250,000!
This is the west end of Ramona, just 3.5 miles from Poway Rd!
There will be one overwhelming factor in selling real estate this year:
Buyers Will Want To Pay Less.
They are coming into every situation with that mindset. Whether it’s online or in person, they will be looking for ANY reason to NOT buy this house. If they can’t find one, they will at least be doing the mental math on how much money they will have to pay to customize it to their tastes……and they will want someone else to pay for it.
It’s a 180-degree change from the frenzy era when buyers just wanted to win a house. Nothing mattered during the frenzy – bad floor plans, bad locations, bad improvements, bad agents, and bad prices didn’t stop buyers from paying insane amounts OVER the asking price. And what’s worse – those are now the comps!
Will sellers adjust?
Will listing agents adjust?
Here’s the first thought to go through their mind:
Let’s add a little extra to the list price to compensate. We can always come down later!
How is it playing out so far? These are NSDCC sales from the last 30 days:
These are starter homes and mid-rangers for the area – not the high-end where it’s more challenging.
It will be easy for sellers to shrug it off, and mentally prepare to sell for 2% to 4% under their list price…..because they already added it on top! But 31% of the recent sales closed for a double-digit percentage below their list price.
Just a quick reminder of the constant grift in real estate.
Before the listing was entered onto the MLS:
After the MLS listing was inputted – at least they didn’t recreate the history graph…..yet:
Before the listing hit the MLS:
After MLS input:
Why does it matter? Because too many people – both buyers and sellers – are relying too much on these to be their accurate value estimators. People are moving too fast, they don’t want to spend much if any time investigating, and it’s too hard to get good help. Everyone just wants to grab and go!
The second set says they are based on recent home sales? How can it fluctuate 20% in one day? These revised real estate values aren’t a result of an algorithm; they are purely derived from the list price.
You are being manipulated by the Corporate Warlords – watch yourself!
It was back when some homeowners had little equity that my favorite seller quote became a t-shirt legend.
But we still hear it today – when it comes to price, home sellers regularly say, “I’m Not Giving It Away!”.
Their equity positions used to be pennies, compared to today. Back in 2009, there were plenty who were just hoping to break even, and maybe come out with enough cash at closing to buy a steak dinner!
Now that every NSDCC homeseller has hundreds of thousands of dollars’ worth of equity, will they loosen up a bit? After all, the last 20% to 30% came pretty easy (in just a year or two) and if they had to give up some or all to make the deal, they certainly could
But will they?
Many potential sellers get so mad about paying the capital-gains tax that it prevents them from moving. Those who are on the open market in October of 2022 have already dealt with that fact mentally, so they must have a fairly good reason to sell.
Those who will dump on price must be really motivated. It probably also means their house isn’t that great because nobody wanted to buy it at retail, or for a little under. Can you live with one of those?
The stock market has been cooking this week, and bond yields coming down in hopes the Fed might slow down the pace of their rate increases. Or maybe even pause, and take a look around at what they created?
If that were to happen, then the 2023 Selling Season should be somewhat healthier as rates dip into the 5s just as more quality homes are coming to market. If current sellers start to get a sniff of that, then they will cancel their listing and wait until next year.
Which means those who are still actively trying to sell the rest of this year must be unusually motived – and your best candidates to test whether they will give it away! Stay in the hunt!
Bill’s take – there may be more deals available sooner than you think:
We were discussing the “mold” found by a home inspector, who wasn’t qualified to comment on the subject – though that didn’t stop him from trying to scare the daylights out of the buyer just so he could CYA.
I suggested that it was the garden-variety mildew that could be removed with a squirt of bleach and a wipe of a cloth. After all, it tested ‘dry’ and the minor stain under the kitchen sink looked like it was years old.
Of course, they asked, “What do you know about mold?”
Here’s more click bait on the front page of the local paper, and most people won’t read any further – it’s too easy to decide to do nothing, which is fine. Wait as long as you want, and we will see where it goes.
It’s a great plan if you’re a buyer and don’t care much about what you are buying. But if you are picky and want to wait until the headlines ease, then you can expect there will be others acting quicker than you, and probably with more horsepower. The affluent aren’t as concerned about timing the exact bottom of the market when they just want a nice house.
Take my Aviara listing. It’s priced at 12% under the last model-match sale in June, and even the buyer of the comparable sale around the corner said mine was better than hers. In the story above, the San Diego County median price came down 6%, so I’m lower than that, and it’s got all the extras.
Yet, as I’m talking to open-house attendees, there was a steady flow of the usual soft stuff:
‘I don’t want to get into a bidding war’.
‘I want to wait-and-see where this goes’.
‘Prices are going down’.
Ok, no problem. But given what we’ve been through, you can’t expect that buying a quality home is going to get easier. Even if the price was lower, there will be competition for the good buys – and when you think about it, there always has been in recent years. We had plenty of bidding wars and people paying over list prior to the pandemic – it isn’t a new thing.
Besides, if the market became so desolate that you could walk into an open house that you thought was a quality buy and nobody else wanted it, wouldn’t that scare you off too?
I have multiple offers on my listing and we’ll sell it for a decent price, so don’t worry about me. I just want buyers to keep looking, and when you see something you like, don’t let the headlines written by ivory-tower guys talk you out of it.
I had another 80+ people attend my open house on Sunday, and a total of more than 200 people for the weekend. Virtually everyone who came was older, and the overwhelming message was that the buyer pool for one-story homes is large and they are hungry for product.
We have received one full-price cash offer so far, and there should be 2-3 more coming in today.
This smaller tract was built by Davidson in 1996, and sold in the $300,000s originally. Only 12 of the 82 homes are the one-story floor plan – which is typical (some newer tracts don’t have ANY one-story plans). Of the 82 homes, 57 of them, or 70% were purchased for less than $1,000,000.
I sure get the feeling that there are boomers occupying most of the newer tract homes in North San Diego County’s coastal region, and they aren’t going anywhere – unless they can buy a single-story home.
The most interesting part is that my listing will be the third sale of this floor plan in 2022, in a neighborhood where there hasn’t been a sale of this model since June, 2018. It could be another few years before the next one sells, because those who have a single-story home tend to hang onto them.
The doomers want to blame higher rates for the slowdown in sales, but unless we get a flood of one-story homes for sale, the inventory will probably keep shrinking – and be mostly made up of the two-story homes where boomers have gotten lucky and snagged one of the few single-story homes coming to market, or where they gave up and left town. It makes it tough on those buyers who are coming here to retire!
Are you waiting to buy a home until you can get a sizable discount?
Is it because you know a guy who will give you a deal on any home improvements needed; you’ve got your eye on some new appliances down at the scratch-and-dent outlet; and you were thinking about going through Redfin until you heard they are cancelling their rebates? You want a deal on everything!
Well, here you go!
These late-1990s tract homes in SE Carlsbad and in the Encinitas school district are priced LOW. The pending listing on Corte Clarita should close at $2,300,000+ because it had already gone pending once in mid-August but came back on market – then the agent refreshed the listing once he found a second buyer a couple of weeks later. He told me there was no big discount happening there:
You know that my listing is going to be closing for $2,250,000 nearby, plus this one should be over $2,300,000…..so these actives are 10% to 20% under. It looks like the market is crashing….is there a catch?
Look at their locations:
The first three are on the corner of Calle Acervo, and the fourth is next door, but hey, La Costa Canyon High School is walking distance! But you have the traffic from high-school drivers too, and you know it will be a madhouse during football games. A deal is a deal though, and you can save hundreds of thousands compared to the remodeled home with larger canyon lot (in purple at bottom).
Or save millions here! This house is listed for $32,500,000, or go down the street and buy this home that was newly priced today for only $4,900,000! Both are oceanfront La Jolla!
The difference? This house is 1,167sf on a 2,982sf lot….at least for now. But it’s 85% cheaper! And the more-expensive one RAISED their price from $25,000,000.
My point? The low comps won’t suck down the expectations of future sellers of superior homes – it’s too easy for them to ignore/explain away the low comps, and will only consider pricing theirs like the other superior sales nearby – which there will be some.
Oh, what about a foreclosure? Well, they are starting to spike:
Or are you going to wait until you can rub my sizable nose in it?
Hey, I wish prices were lower, and if they crashed it would only mean more opportunity for buyers, and hopefully more volume, which is what I want. I’m not trying to coax buyers into paying too much – I’m showing you where the deals are today, if you don’t mind an inferior home or location.
I just hoping that the coming standoff only lasts a couple of years, instead of 5-10.
Chris asked how the current environment compares to the 2008 downturn.
In the summer of 2008, there were only 601 NSDCC sales between June 1st and August 31st, in spite of there being 1,348 listings that summer. For the next two years, the number of listings far exceeded the number of sales, and in the 2008-2010 period there were twice as many listings as sales. The 2010 ratio was the worst at 2.3 to 1.
This summer we only had 825 listings, and 504 sales, which is a 1.6 to 1 ratio!
The 2022 sales were 16% lower than the previous record in 2008, but there were 39% fewer listings!
We’ve never had so few listings to consider. Now that the Fed is making it so obvious that they intend to cause a recession, more potential sellers – who tend to casually read the headlines only – will delay their decision to move. Does anybody HAVE to move in 2023? Every potential seller will give it a second or third thought if they believe it will cost them several hundreds of thousands of dollars.
The NSDCC inventory next year will be the lowest ever – even Ray Charles can see that coming.