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Category Archive: ‘Forecasts’

Frenzy Comparison

The last time the market took off, it was for different reasons (easy money, shorter-term thinking, and more move-ups), but the market psychology should be similar this time around – because buyer exhaustion is inevitable.

Here is how it looked then – during the first part of 2003 you could feel the market bubbling up, and by summer it was evident in the closings.

From June, 2003 to May, 2004, average pricing rose from $331/sf to $469/sf, which is a 42% increase:

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Here’s the SD Case-Shiller graph, which reports three months late and documents the whole county, which lagged behind the coast:

Case-Shiller Home Price Index: San Diego, CA Chart

Case-Shiller Home Price Index: San Diego, CA data by YCharts

The big difference this time is that while it feels like a frenzy with prices increasing, the overall stats are far more moderate than last time. Comparing last July’s $366/sf to last month’s average of $420/sf, the increase is 15%:

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This frenzy is focused on the quality properties, which apparently doesn’t float all the boats higher this time (or at least not as high), and the fraud is keeping a damper on the statistical increases too.

If a frenzy can stay red hot for about a year, then we should be wrapping up this version shortly – probably in the next couple of months. Future pricing trends should fall more in line with the averages (sub-10% annually), with an occasional outburst.

Posted by on May 14, 2013 in Forecasts, Frenzy, Graphs of Market Indicators, Market Conditions | 7 comments

Fed’s Bubble Risk

From dsnews.com:

A majority of real estate experts responding to a recent Zillow survey expressed some concern that the Federal Reserve’s current policies could lead to another housing bubble.

housingrunningoutofsteamOnly 4 percent of respondents are not at all worried about a bubble resulting from the Fed’s monetary policy that is keeping mortgage rates down. However, 48 percent see the Fed’s policies as “a little risky,” and the remaining 48 percent categorized the risk as “moderate to high risk.”

“How the Federal Reserve handles the eventual winding down of its policy of quantitative easing will be critical in determining if the current period of rapid appreciation is a benign bounce off the bottom or a more dangerous bubble being re-inflated,” said Stan Humphries, chief economist at Zillow.

The more than 100 survey respondents expect home prices to continue their upward trajectory this year and over the next few years. However, the general consensus is that price increases will slow after the next year or so.

Experts expect prices to end this year 5.4 percent higher than their level at the start of the year. After ending 2012 at $156,800, the median price would end this year at $165,280, according to this forecast.

From 2015 through 2017, experts suggest a more modest rise per year of 3.5 to 3.7 percent.

A cumulative rise of 22.3 percent is forecasted through 2017, according to Zillow’s survey.

http://www.dsnews.com/articles/experts-see-risk-of-housing-bubble-resulting-from-fed-policies-2013-05-07

Posted by on May 8, 2013 in Forecasts | 4 comments

Majority Expect Higher Prices

From HW:

It seems Americans are growing more optimistic about the state of housing, as more than half of Americans now expect the country’s home prices to appreciate within the next year, Fannie Mae reports.

Those results came from Fannie Mae’s April 2013 National Housing Survey, which revealed the share of respondents who anticipate a price increase rose 3 percentage points, bringing the April total to 51%. 

Those who believe home prices will drop remained at the survey low of 10% for the fourth consecutive month. 

higherhouseprices“For the first time in the survey’s three-year history, the majority of Americans surveyed now expect home prices to increase,” said Doug Duncan, Fannie Mae’s chief economist and senior vice president. Duncan notes that crossing the 50% threshold marks a significant milestone as most Americans believe a housing recovery is truly occurring throughout the country. 

The number of respondents who says now is the time to sell rose 4 percentage points in April to 30%. This compares to 15% at the same time last year.

“Reflecting that increased optimism toward housing, the share of Americans who think it is a good time to sell has doubled during the last year. Many homeowners who have been underwater are gradually returning to positive equity, and selling is now becoming an available and attractive option again,” said Duncan. 

The increasing optimism toward the selling market may be a good sign of continued improvement in housing activity, as recent market data suggest that five out of eight people who buy a home first have to sell, says Fannie Mae.

The share of respondents who say mortgage rates will go up fell 3 percentage points to 43%, while those who say they will go down rose slightly to 7%.

Of those surveyed, 65% said they would buy if they were going to move. The number of respondents who say home rental prices will go up in the next year dropped 2 percentage points from last month’s survey high, totaling 48% of those surveyed. 

At 39%, the share of respondents who say the economy is on the right track increased 4 percentage points over March.

An encouraging 20% of respondents said their household income is significantly higher than it was 12 months ago, holding steady from last month.

http://www.housingwire.com/news/2013/05/07/majority-surveyed-americans-expect-home-prices-rise

Posted by on May 7, 2013 in Forecasts, Market Conditions | 12 comments

More Non-Bubble Talk

From the sddt.com:

San Diego’s home prices are increasing by double-digit percentages — but local professionals say it’s not like the bubble of the early 2000s.

“It’s still an underpriced market relative to rents, relative to incomes,” said Christopher Thornberg, founding partner of Beacon Economics. “Prices need to rise 30 percent to get to normal levels of affordability.”

San Diego’s home prices increased 10.2 percent in February from a year ago, its first month of a double-digit increase, according to the S&P/Case-Shiller Home Price Indices.

Single-family resale homes sold for a median price of $432,000 in San Diego County in March, according to the San Diego Association of Realtors.

This is an increase of 5 percent from February and 19 percent from March 2012. In the first quarter, single-family home prices increased 15 percent from a year ago.

Historically, markets tend to overshoot on the way up and on the way down, Thornberg said. “Could it happen on the way up? Sure. But it’s too early to be sounding the alarm,” Thornberg said.

In a 2006 speech, Thornberg defined a bubble as being “when what the market price of the asset is has no absolute basis in reality of the fundamentals of what actual returns that asset can produce in the future.”

Looking at real estate values over the past 20 years, there was a bubble in the early 2000s, then a huge decline in 2007, 2008 and 2009. Now there’s a recovery as confidence is somewhat restored, said Mark Goldman, real estate professor at San Diego State University, senior loan officer with C2 Financial Corp. and principal at The London Group.

“What I see happening is a return to our mean,” Goldman said. “Our values are going up fast because they probably went down too far during the crunch.”

One difference between 2006 and now is the credit standards.

double bubble“There was a lot of financing programs available to those who did not necessarily qualify,” Goldman said. “Current residential financing requires very careful and prudent underwriting, which will moderate the impact of housing prices accelerating beyond people’s means. Also, the appraisals required for residential financing are also under more strict guidelines.”

It could be troubling if those credit standards begin to sag again, Thornberg said. The downturn was so bad in the last cycle in part because of the subprime lending, which “made it so toxic,” he said.

“Re-emergence of the subprime would be something to worry about. At this point, this market rally is in no way, shape or form a bubble. It’s quite the opposite. It’s a well-needed return toward something resembling normalcy,” Thornberg said.

“Everyone is saying, ‘Oh this is going to happen to everyone again,’” said Leslie Kilpatrick, branch manager and broker associate for Willis Allen, at a recent roundtable hosted by The Daily Transcript.

“But people are getting fixed-rate loans at a low interest rate. They know they’re carrying costs moving out. There’s no balloon; there’s no five-year adjustment. There’s none of these problems that were inherent in some of these products that were put out there. And also, while we complain about lending standards being tougher, we know that they’re able, at least at this point in time, to make those payments.”

Low inventory is driving the increase in home prices, Thornberg said. There is only about 1.4 months of inventory in San Diego, said John Altman, owner and broker at JT Altman & Associates.

Homes priced under $450,000 have an inventory of only 24 days, Altman said at an April event. A market with less than three months of inventory is a seller’s market with pressure.

A balanced inventory would have six months of inventory, and for San Diego to be balanced there would need to be between 14,000 and 16,000 active listings in the MLS, Altman said. As of the week of the San Diego Association of Realtors expo in April, there were 4,400 listings.

“Ultimately, what we’re dealing with is a market-driven forward by a lack of available supply. That’s the driver to everything,” Thornberg said. “People always talk about prices. It’s a lagging indicator. What leads the market are inventories.”

Speculative investors who were fixing up houses and flipping them are now finding it more difficult to find a deal, Goldman said.

“[They’ve] acknowledged that market prices are not going up that fast,” Goldman said. “We’re being guided more carefully by fundamentals and more reasonable expectations. … I don’t think the speculative value will skyrocket in the current market environment. I think investors and homebuyers are being more prudent.”

Homebuyers today are buying with the expectation to stay in the home for five years or more, Goldman said. In 2006 and 2007, people would own a home for six months, sell it at a profit and buy a bigger home, he added.

The cost to own versus the cost to rent is very close, unlike in 2005 when the cost to own was often 2 or 2.5 times what the monthly rent would be for the same house, Goldman said.

“I think the market is running healthy metrics right now with regard to affordability and values compared to rent. We’re in a good place,” Goldman said.

In his 2006 speech, Thornberg said, “If future rental markets look strong, say because we have a shortage of housing, which we don’t, then prices today will go up.”

While that wasn’t the case in 2006, it is in 2013. Thornberg also mentioned a “consumer binge” in 2006, when consumers reportedly spent more than they earned after taxes in 2005.

“Consumers still are overspending, but it’s not a credit phenomenon,” Thornberg said about 2013’s consumers.

Posted by on May 1, 2013 in Forecasts, Frenzy, Market Conditions | 1 comment

Home Prices – How High?

Our reader Stormin sent in this link to a guy who he has followed for years and says he is solid:

http://dailytradealert.com/2013/04/24/you-still-havent-missed-out-on-this-incredible-opportunity/

Here is an excerpt:

“I believe house prices in America will soar beyond what anyone can imagine.”

He’s not putting a price or percentage on it, so take it with a grain of salt.

But when we are already seeing local prices getting back to – or above - the peak levels, it does make you scratch your head.

How high could our local real estate prices go?

Here is my wild guess.

In boom years, home appreciation averages around 1% per month – and in the craziest year of all, 2003, prices went up 2% per month (I’m using round numbers).

This year will be our 2003, and NSDCC detached homes will see rampant appreciation at our current pace – let’s call it 2% per month.

Amazingly, today’s cash buyers don’t seem to care about recent sales, and don’t mind paying wildly above comps – and I see it everywhere.  This will contribute greatly to the 2% per month appreciation this year.

We need to satisfy the demand of all the rich people first – they are at the front of the line, and until they get all the real estate they can handle, the financed buyers will have to wait around.

But we should hit a point in June/July where it becomes obvious that the market is totally out of control.  The evidence will be the glut forming of over-priced turkeys whose owners still think we’re in the selling season and their lucky sale is right around the corner so they refuse to lower their price.

The ego of cash buyers will start demanding better deals, and when spoiled sellers don’t comply, it will open the door for financed buyers who will jump at the chance to get in the game.  Hence, the 2% per month lasts all year as more financed deals filter in.

Once we get into 2014, the Fed starts backing off the QE-Forever, and banks will start rasiing mortgage rates whether the market demands it or not.

Financed buyers go crazy at the thought of losing their bragging rights around the barbeque about getting the lowest rate, and the frenzy stays hot for another year – but at the 1% per month rate because it is already built on top of the previous year’s 2% per month.

By the time we get to 2015, exhaustion is setting in – both physically and financially – and more sellers are rushing to market.  Let’s cut it back to 0.5% per month.

2013 = 24%

2014 = 12%

2015 = 6%

Total = 42% above 2012 pricing.

That’s the maximum – is that beyond what anyone could imagine?

Posted by on Apr 25, 2013 in About the author, Forecasts, North County Coastal | 15 comments

Price Growth Into 2017 Predicted

No statistical evidence to back them up, just guesses…

If projections hold out, home values will rise 22 percent cumulatively by the end of 2017, according to Zillow’s first-quarter Home Price Expectations Survey.

For its report, Zillow and Pulsenomics surveyed a nationwide panel of 118 economists, real estate experts, and investment and market strategists to get their thoughts on future home values and housing market policies.

On average, the panel forecasts price growth of 4.6 percent in 2013 and 4.2 percent in 2014. More moderate growth is expected after that, with annual appreciation rates between 3.6 percent and 3.8 percent for 2015, 2016, and 2017, leading to an average 4.1 percent growth annually for the next five years.

Price Expectations

According to Zillow, this is the first time the predicted average annual growth rate for the next five years has surpassed pre-bubble levels since the survey was created.

“The panel is quite bullish on home prices near-term, considering a pre-bubble average appreciation rate of 3.6 percent per year,” said Dr. Stan Humphries, chief economist at Zillow. “That said, their expectations are a bit shy of the home value gains of 5.5 percent that we saw in 2012, implying some moderation in the pace of gains.”

“The panel expectations are consistent with continued strong home value growth this year fueled by tighter-than-normal inventory of for-sale homes and robust demand attributable to high affordability and a stronger general economy,” he added.

The most optimistic quartile of panelists predicted a 6.1 percent increase in home values this year, on average, while the most pessimistic predicted an average increase of 3 percent. Expectations for cumulative growth projections ranged from 34.2 percent among the most optimistic panelists to 11.7 percent among the most pessimistic, on average.

The panel also responded to questions on GSE wind-down and refinance options for underwater borrowers.

The majority of panelists—59 percent—said they believe a “reasonable and appropriate” timeframe for winding down Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac is within the next five years. Thirteen percent suggested a timeframe within the next two years, while on the opposite end of the spectrum, 10 percent said a period of more than 10 years is the most sensible.

In addition, the majority of panelists expressed support for proposals that would allow certain underwater borrowers to refinance; one such proposal is the Responsible Homeowner Refinancing Act of 2012, sponsored by Sens. Barbara Boxer (D-California) and Robert Menendez (D-New Jersey).

“More than four of every five supports of these refinancing proposals said they believe that borrowers who have demonstrated an ability to make their payments in recent years would pose little or no incremental risk to taxpayers if they refinanced. Two-thirds of supports said they believe that the lower monthly payments would create a significant stimulus for the economy,” said Pulsenomics founder Terry Loebs.

“But the 41 percent of panel respondents who do not support these plans also hold strong views. More than two-thirds of them said they believe that rewriting loan contracts is bad policy in general, and that lowered monthly payments for borrowers ultimately translate into taxpayer and investor losses,” Loebs continued.

http://www.dsnews.com/articles/industry-experts-predict-price-growth-into-2017-2013-03-18

Posted by on Mar 21, 2013 in Forecasts, Sales and Price Check | 11 comments

JtR’s Crystal Ball

MB Mike asked a follow-up:

In terms of timing, what does your crystal ball say 2014 will bring? Better to wait a year to sell?

Yes, wait if general market conditions are your guide.

Real estate is reported as ‘up’ or ‘down’, and it will be ‘up’ for a while.

The media loves real estate, and will be following it closely in order to sensationalize every bump and wiggle.  The more good news that buyers see and hear, the higher their anxiety, and the more they will pay to end the struggle.

The current frenzy conditions feel exactly like they did in the 2003 run-up.  Here’s the Case-Shiller Index (seasonally-adjusted):

Case Shiller San Diego

I think we will experience the same trajectory as we did in 2003, and maybe faster if inventory grows at the perfect rate – which is more inventory please, but not too much. :lol:

There are going to be pocket areas/markets that show 10%-20% appreciation in the first half of 2013.

They are the lower-priced segments of premium areas – homes under $900,000 in Carmel Valley, the $600,000-$700,000 market in Rancho Penasquitos, and the under-$700,000 market in Carlsbad are examples.

Yet, you can go to Rancho Santa Fe’s $3,000,000+ market and find 119 active listings – and four have closed in the last 30 days.

When to sell is relative to your location, price range, and what you are selling.  Here are the Three Amigos discussing it:

Let’s also note that you won’t see the bad news coming that could derail your quest for the extra pop, because bad news always sneaks up on you.  Examples:

1.  Flash flood of competing sellers nearby.

2.  A sudden increase in mortgage rates caused by market forces, which the Fed can’t control.

3.  Realtor fraud, creating a low comp or two.

4.  Natural disasters – earthquakes, etc.

5.  Man-made disasters – nuclear war by the North Koreans, etc.

Any of those reasons would cause buyers to quit chasing the pricing stampede, and get back on the sidelines to watch and wait for prices to go down.  Many people, mostly the W-2 employees, have already been priced out of the areas they thought they could afford, and are left searching for alternatives; which amount to inferior neighborhoods, hitting the lotto, or waiting.

Don’t rely solely on what you see here at Bubbleinfo.com.  We specialize in selling superior products in premium areas, and the examples seen here are the cream of the crop.  Generally the demand is very deep currently, but it will dry up in the more-standard areas first.

Get good help!

Posted by on Mar 19, 2013 in About the author, Bubbleinfo TV, Forecasts, North County Coastal, Same-House Sales, Why You Should Hire Jim as your Buyer's Agent, Why You Should List With Jim | 24 comments

Big Pop Ahead?

On February 10th, I guessed that by mid-March, enough new listings would be pouring into the MLS that a glut might be forming, and we would be up to five months’ worth of inventory.

Date NSDCC Listings Avg. LP $$/sf
Jan 14
649
$722/sf
Feb 4
667
$716/sf
Feb 10
679
$713/sf
Feb 25
678
$719/sf
March 6
727
$703/sf
March 11
744
$698/sf
March 16
746
$703/sf

There were 185 solds in February, so 746/185 = 4.03 months of inventory.

The number of new listings this month look similar to last year, but there is one glaring difference:

March 1-15 New Listings LP Avg $/sf
2012
245
$403/sf
2013
241
$505/sf

It looks like we’re having another year like 2003! I think that the big pop of appreciation has happened, and sellers are already enjoying much higher pricing. We’ll see more evidence as sales close in the coming months.

Posted by on Mar 16, 2013 in Forecasts, Frenzy, Inventory, North County Coastal | 0 comments

“Nirvana For Housing”

A scarcity of homes for sale and record-low mortgage rates are setting up for a bullish real estate market, Zelman & Associates CEO Ivy Zelman said Thursday on CNBC.

ivy1“I think we’re in nirvana for housing,” she said. “I think that I have to tell you, I’m probably the most bullish I’ve ever been fundamentally, and I’m dating myself, been around for over 20 years, so I’ve seen a lot of ups and downs.”

On “Fast Money,” Zelman likened consumer sentiment to a battleship pointing down for the past several years.

“And then the inventory cleared, the blight goes away, consumers feel better and now it’s really this urgency to go find a house,” she said. “I’ll tell you, there are Realtors blanketing neighborhoods, asking people to sell their homes.”

Zelman correctly called both the housing market’s top in 2005 and the bottom in 2012.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/100533720

She said in the video that she thinks this run could last 4-6 years.

Posted by on Mar 8, 2013 in Forecasts, Market Buzz, Market Conditions | 2 comments