Written by Jim the Realtor

November 28, 2009

Here’s a flipper who was foiled in the act.

A realtor had listed this house in June, noting that it was a short-sale flip in progress. They had arranged (conspired) with the seller to submit to the existing lender a short sale package at a lower price, and then listed it on the MLS for $598,321 before the short sale was approved – intending to pocket the difference.

Instead, the bank foreclosed on them:

28 Comments

  1. François Caron

    What a complete mess! This might be your worst house video yet!

  2. W.C. Varones

    That’s not justice. The flipper didn’t lose anything.

    Real justice would be the flipper buying it and then discovering foundation problems.

  3. shadash

    How do you get water problems in every room of a house?

    Very odd…

  4. doughboy

    And we are in a drought!

  5. Greekfire

    Now this is the type of video that is vintage Jim the Realtor IMO. Seven minutes of your time and you walk away with a wealth of knowledge. It reminds me of that video he did on the house for sale with the water fountain that was always on to block out the noise from traffic.

  6. dacounselor

    Scrape it.

  7. FreedomCM

    Great education.

    Thanks Jim!

  8. Steve

    Jim,

    It’s called Efflorescence. Effervescence would be your personality.

    Steve

  9. Chuck Ponzi

    This shows what I meant when I said that foreclosures is the best route for the bank. Too many people think that short sales or “working it out” is better for them, but that’s never been proven. Foreclosure is a time-tested solution to too much debt.

    Liquidate, liquidate, liquidate.

    Chuck

  10. Genius

    JtR in classic form. Nice vid.

    .5 mil ticket for something best serviced with matches and gasoline… and a bulldozer. Did I hear you right – they bought this back in 90 and it went to foreclosure. I hope the mew was fun.

  11. tj & the bear

    I’d have let them have the short sale, because that place is a true money pit. The flipper would’ve flopped big time. Still, nice to see that realtor’s plan get stomped.

    Greekfire’s right, too — lots of great info.

  12. Dwip

    You should have shown that on Halloween instead of Thanksgiving — it was scary enough.

    So what, did they have sprinklers on inside?

  13. JimB

    You know, it strikes me with this house and many, many that I’ve looked at in SD, they look like they belong to the year 1985. I could see charles in charge on TV in that home.

    This brings back a memory of a home I almost bought which had water problems. The land it sat on was sloped on a curve, which turned in markedly toward the home. I worried about the proper water runoff so I asked the builder about it. He said there could not be runoff problems because we have to build to regs, yada, yada, yada. The more he talked the less I wanted to buy.

    So maybe a week later it rained pretty good and during the rain I stopped by the home. To my not so surprise, there was water several inches deep standing in the back yard and on the sides of home. It was standing ankle deep from just one morning of rain. No thanks, the deal was dead.

    Flash forward about a year and the home was back on the market. Some poor soul had bought it but was trying to sell at 40% off the price.

  14. Art Eclectic

    I’ll be very interested to see how this property plays out. What is the going rate for a complete tear down these days? How much value is that land going to hold when you factor in your demo/removal costs to get back to a buildable lot?

  15. pemeliza

    The street isn’t good enough for that to be considered a scraper. Why do all that work to live on Levante?

  16. Smithers

    “Effervescence” is the gas that comes out of the bubbles in your Perrier.

    Wessonality, on the other hand …

  17. Blissful Ignoramus

    The pool looks DIY as well.

  18. Geotpf

    “How much value is that land going to hold when you factor in your demo/removal costs to get back to a buildable lot?”

    I think a vacant lot (unless in a great location) is worth about zero these days. Add in the cost of a demo, and a tear-down therefore has to be worth less than zero.

  19. 3clicks from the beach

    Bad design in combination with no maintenance means an accelerated date with the Reaper. Water is entering from the wall/foundation and the french doors on the first floor. It looks like the second story has some flat roof and the master has french doors and water looks like it is seeping in. Not sure if any water is coming from the tile roof but at this point, who knows and who cares – Pass Go and collect $200.

    The former owner drove to Brea every day? Again, what is time worth? A commute is a reverse gift that keeps on giving not once a year or once a day, but two times a day. Brea is an extreme example but still, driving just an extra 30 – 40 minutes roundtrip everyday to get that McMansion is C-R-A-Z-Y like Elin Nordegren with a 2 iron. Odds say if she would have grabbed the 9 iron that back window would have been perfectly fine 😀

  20. CA renter

    We were wondering what had happened to that house. I thought it had sold. Didn’t it go pending at the higher price?

    Very poor curb appeal and strange layout. Add all the water damage, etc. and it’s unlikely anyone will want to pay more than $500K for it, if that. Agree with you — that’s a tear-down.

  21. Art Eclectic

    “it’s unlikely anyone will want to pay more than $500K for it”

    See, that’s my question. Would an owner/occupier actually buy that house — at any price? I can imagine a flipper buying it and hiding the water damage evidence yet again, but since Jim has so lovingly documented it, would that leave the flipper open to a lawsuit in the long term when the water problems surfaced again and there’s the video right there showing that the problem had been covered up?

    That’s why I think this property is going to be so interesting to watch. As an REO, is the bank obligated to disclose the water problems? Is anyone crazy enough to buy a house that is basically uninsurable? If this thing hits the market at $200k, would someone buy for tear down? Would someone buy and attempt to live there with mold problems being a certainty?

    Inquiring minds want to know!

  22. 3clicks from da beach

    It is kind of like buying an REO or Short in your neighboorhood because you can watch and maintain it easier, but the price is still too high to bring any sort of immediate cashflow (also given the down payment). Better look elsewhere.

  23. Emma

    I’m with Art Eclectic. It’s a scrapper all right, but it won’t be priced at the value of the property, so it will just sit. Although, I’ve been researching high tech sealants with thoughts toward building entirely below ground, and man there is some nice stuff out there. I’d give the roof and those below ground exterior walls a go, personally, but not at THAT price. Maybe for 100k above dirt price. I like the style of the foyer (?) area, with the curved staircase. The angles appeal to me for some reason.

  24. 3rd Generation

    How much is the dirt worth?

  25. Jinx

    I almost bought a house in that neighborhood this summer and I am so happy it didn’t work out. This home should drag down values even more.

  26. Desert Realtor

    I’m surprised the city has not “red tagged” this property. The potential mold issue, improper grading and drainage, etc. in my opinion, is irreparable. JtR, you are right – it is a teardown. That was one lucky flipper and the lucky listing agent dodged a bullet.

  27. Big Fan

    Excellent. God Bless You. You nailed the water problems. My prediction: a real estate “investor” will buy it, hire some half-baked construction folk, do some “improvements/upgrades”, and then try to sell it to some poor sucker. So some poor guy with a wife and kids think he’s getting a deal but with the first big rainstorm finds out that he’s been screwed. Lawyers will be called but little or no money ever gets back to the buyer because the “investor” cries poor or disappears. Rinse and repeat. If I ever see an open house on that one I’ll be attending to warn potential buyers….

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