Coastal Variety

Written by Jim the Realtor

June 28, 2011

Pacific Station has sold a few condos, and Whole Foods Market opens Wednesday, June 29th at 9am – the first 300 customers get a complimentary demi-baguette:

From Yelp:

FYI, just learned that the units are being sold, in phases of course.  Bluwater is giving tenants ninety days to move in the “Live Loft” area.  My assessment of Bluwater as a renter is different from being a buyer.  Being a previous home owner,  I would be upset to learn the wooden floor buckles quite easily when liquids touches it, that there is no sealant on the grout of the luxurious bathtub area (molds easily), or that the paint is just coming of the exterior trim.  Rumor has it the “Live Lofts” are going for $500K, which is approximately 1400 square feet.   I cannot say what the “Work Lofts” (2700-3000 sq. ft.) are being sold for, originally they were in the $700’s at the height of the real estate market.

687 South Coast Highway Hwy # 212, Encinitas, CA 92024

20 Comments

  1. Jim the Realtor

    Here’s another coastal entry, though it’s hard to tell if this will end up as condos or timeshares:

    http://www.surferspointresort.com/large.htm

    Plus the Hilton Ponto Beach Resort is underway too:

    http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/may/07/construction-underway-carlsbad-hilton-resort/

    “It was tough for everybody in the country, but for us on this project, we own the property free and clear, and we were just methodically going about our business getting the approvals, getting the plans,” Wavecrest President Bill Canepa said. “It didn’t cause us to slow down or make any changes.”

    Canepa, who was named Businessperson of the Year in March by the Carlsbad Chamber of Commerce, said the land was collectively valued at $20 million, and it acquired it for about half that.

    South Carlsbad, which city officials say is blighted by the Encina Power Station’s 400-foot-tall smokestacks, is a focus for city redevelopment.

    It has three planning subdivisions, one of which is Ponto. The city’s plans for the coastal land include three hotels, condominiums, time shares and shopping areas.

    The Carlsbad Hilton Oceanfront Resort & Spa marks the first of those plans to come near fruition.

  2. Mozart

    These are pretty gutsy moves. And, it is interesting the surge that has happened in Encinitas/Carlsbad with subdivisions and now these projects going back to market.

    I do think that the commercial is fully leased at Moonlight. The law offices make it look empty but probably a solid tenant, (so long as they don’t sue you).

    I’ve been an optimist for a long time now but I too am fatigued and don’t see much reason to go out with for sale now, especially when rentals are so strong.

    Looking forward to more updates.

  3. Jim the Realtor

    It sounds cheap, but the CC might be the problem, though if the seller pays, who cares? From the confidential remarks:

    Visit http://www.NeptuneBeachHouse.com. Property zoned R11/single family detached. Currently non-conforming as a duplex. Seller to pay Beach Recreation and Sand Mitigation Fee required by Coastal Commission.

  4. Jakob

    Scary stuff.

    I’m from the government and I’m here to help.

  5. wassup

    Not sure if he’s trying to sell it as a single property for 2.2 or just the lower half of the duplex?

    If the CC fees are paid, and the seawall is in… 2.2M plus rent out the upper level for $3-4k a month certainly looks good on paper…

  6. wassup

    hmmm, I guess I didn’t realize North County Waterfront could be this “cheap”. $2.15M for 138 Neptune.

    Cliff failure in your front yard excluded of course… Would be nice while it lasted though.

    http://www.redfin.com/CA/Encinitas/138-Neptune-Ave-92024/home/4093776

    So what’s the scoop, Jim. Are these places on Neptune bargains, or death traps?

  7. Captain Keno

    It is interesting: everyone seems to be bailing on Neptune after that one bluff collapse….there are quite a few for sale.

    Some with optimistic prices, I might add.

  8. wassup

    What Bluff collapse Captain? I remember one many years ago at Moonlight beach that killed a woman, has there been one more recently?

  9. Jim the Realtor

    I think the biggest concerns are that Neptune properties can turn into money pits. The seawalls aren’t perfect, and reading the Coastal Commission’s report linked above made it sound like the homeowners are liable forever.

    From the nctimes.com article above at #12:

    What worries some city officials is that the bluffs can collapse without warning.

    “Everything’s real loose,” Giles said.

    Encinitas Engineering Services Director Peter Cota-Robles said Tuesday the city’s main concern is keeping people away from the collapsed bluff.

    Beyond that, he said the property owners will have to hire a geotechnical expert to determine how to repair the bluff and prevent any more damage.

    “We’ve seen a lot of bluff collapses. This particular one is perhaps more significant in that it has damaged an existing seawall at the base of it,” Cota-Robles said.

  10. wassup

    I noticed the same liability comment in the CC report while reading it but didn’t really consider the true “impact”.

    What happens if your $1M seawall decides to fall down on a sun bathing surfer? Is that covered by a typical oceanfront homeowner liability insurance policy? If so, is homeowner insurance for North County Waterfront, and Neptune in particular, crazy expensive, or just “normal” expensive?

  11. Jim the Realtor

    I’m sure the cost of defending yourself in these sue-happy days is enough of a burden to scare off buyers, even if insurance provides coverage.

    But like we talked about with title insurance, is any insurance any good any more?

    The Solana Beach cliff-front bank-owned house we previewed here finally closed for $1.4 million cash, which was $950,000 less than the original list price. 164 days on market too:

    http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100070436-355_Pacific_Ave_Solana_Beach_CA_92075

  12. wassup

    Wow, Tsunami-front just ain’t hat it used to be…

    Last question, what about Del Mar ocean-front?

    I saw listings for $10 – $20M over the past few years. Are these places selling regularly, or is it just the one or two off?

    I seem to recall a famous/super-rich businessman bought two oceanfront lots in DM a few years ago for several 10s of Million $$$, causing the waterfront prices in the area to explode.

  13. Sol

    Thanks for the update on the lofts projects. Various renters comments left on the internet regarding Bluwater certainly suggest many less than desirable attributes now associated with this particular project.

  14. N.

    My knees and other joints hurt just thinking of living that close to the beach.

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