Some explanation of why the 4,040sf REO on Encanto was priced at $795,000 – on the other side of Bressi there has been a few sales around $200/sf:
More BR Background
by Jim the Realtor | Jan 3, 2011 | Local Flavor, Market Conditions, North County Coastal | 19 comments
Pathetic that the residents opposed that….what’s the problem?!
The problem is they are bringing adult males with mental difficulties into a neighborhood stocked with a hundred kids under 7 yrs old.
It is not sweet little old ladies in a nursing home knitting sweaters.
More importantly, when pressed by the community about the potential resident’s histories and track record of behavior, they were vague, evasive, and didn’t feel the parents had any right to know who was being brought into their kid’s neighborhood (paid for by their taxes of course).
Thus the combination of the individual, undisclosed mental issues coupled with the dismissive and evasive responses to the resident’s concerns is enough to give any parent grave concerns. concerns which were brushed off by the Teri group and the City.
TERI, Inc. provides services to adults with developmental disabilities, not to adults with mental illness, criminals, or violence issues. So the individuals who would live in the house would have Downs Syndrome, Autism, or similar issues. TERI should have been able to provide a similar, generic description but due to privacy laws, they would not be able to disclose the actual issues of each of the prospective residents.
Interesting story about TERI. Seems a strange place for public financed housing. Not sure anyone did the math on that one.
Love all the text-overs with sale info. Wish more agents were this knowledgeable and articulate.
Have they harmed anyone clearfund?
It seems like a red herring to me. God-forbid anyone but couples and families live in BR. We don’t want those autistic, mentally disabled people….who by the way, bother nobody.
It’s probably all about property values and, frankly, ignorance.
at the end you were at Palomar & El Camino, I’m still wondering about the story behind the dismantled resort there that borders the office complex I work in.
NIMBY is alive and well in CA.
Not all Bressi resident’s opposed Teri Inc. and their objectives. I was actually saddened that so many residents tried to fight Teri on this. However, I do feel that Teri could have done a better job of explaining their exact intent.
Presentation is everything at these types of events, and if residents came into the HOA meeting with concerns that didn’t get answered clearly, well, then you can imagine the disconnect.
osidebuyer,
They have a Lowe’s designated for the old Olympic Resort, which local residents were fighting too, but I think the city planning commission approved it.
It was the secretive, dismissive nature of TERI to the resident’s initially curious questions that was a catalyst in the situation escalating. Sure, some residents were too extreme in their initial stance, however, the burden of disclosure rests firmly on the shoulders of TERI and they hid behind privacy laws and essentially said “tough s$&/ ” to the neighbors.
I would hope both sides would approach it differently going forward.
clearfund…you’re making some pretty detached assumptions. Group homes are registered, inspected and overseen by multiple authorities. (Put simply, this allows for the locals to apply pressure to make corrections should problems arise).
IF this were a multiple unit housing facility, then I’d have some concern. Typically, single-family homes have two to four occupants and full-time caregivers that have eyes-on custody. I have a similar home in our cul-de-sac and couldn’t be happier. It’s a 2200 sq/ft sixties custom home in a neighborhood of similar mid-century moderns. The company that operates the home maintains three-shift coverage and has three developmentally disabled clients. There are no “short buses” out front; only the shift-change three times a day and shuttle vans to take the clients to their appointments. The house is one of the best maintained in our already very nice neighborhood.
Collectively, the neighborhood owners are happy to have them.
There’s a group home in our neighborhood, also. Unless you’re told about it, you’d never know. 4 residents and then 2 caregivers/shift. They even encourage family members and friends that come visit to “be discrete” because they are constantly worried about neighbor backlash.
But it’s a very well maintained home and not a negative for the neighborhood.
clearfund-Sounds like TERI has to be secretive or break the law (probably HIPAA). Medical privacy laws are pretty darned strict.
White Construction is Legitimate–they Did a TI project for a tenant of mine in Soth Bay last year–I noticed their Carlsbad address when they sent papaerwork/releases.
I have an adult autistic child and am on the Board of a non-profit that runs several group homes. Let me tell you that most middle/upper class neighborhoods in CA will oppose a group home siting for disabled adults. And it’s not because the non-profit running the group home didn’t handle questions appropriately. And it’s not because there are concerns about the safety of the neighborhood children. It’s because the neighbors are worried about their housing values. Period. End of story.
I have to tell you that I am pleasantly surprised by the positive nature of all the comments. Thank you for restoring my faith in humanity, which can get pretty battered at times. This is such an awesome group…I learn something every day from all of you.
If you were to reveal the patients specific disabilities, you would be violating the HIPAA regulations even if you didn’t call out the patients by name. It’s like when you anonymize records to share, you typically can’t call out an elderly patients age. That’s not because of any specific regulation, but there’s likely only one or two 84 year olds in your group and that age can then be tracked back to the patient names on record.
They aren’t hiding behind privacy laws, because violating HIPAA can come with severe consequences.
Just happened to find this on TERI’s website:
http://www.teriinc.org/programs-and-services/residential.html
Michalowski House
Michalowski House is a HUD project and will be licensed as an ICF/DD-H ( Intermediate Care/Developmentally Disabled-Habilitative) facility funded through the federal government. Four young men with autism will live in this beautiful home in the Bressi Ranch area of North San Diego County. Each of them will have a private bedroom and share access to the common areas of the house, the yard and pool. In addition they will be able to integrate into the nearby community for recreation, education, socialization, and access to services. The staff supporting these young men include a nurse, a supervisor, direct care staff, speech, recreation, and nutritional consultants.