Sounds like you are driving, filming and leafing through papers simultaneously? At least I don’t hear you chewing gum, so that’s a relief.
Consultant
on April 26, 2010 at 8:28 am
Jim,
Thanks for the tip on ocean views. This is why I continue to follow your blog. If you’re not local, there is no way you know these things.
My wife and I lived in Phoenix for a short while. Beautiful views, etc. But none of the realtors told us before we moved there that we’d wind up living like Batman. Most of the day the shades were shut on all of our windows because of the heat from the sun. The 2 months of “winter” were fine, but the rest of the time we lived in a bat cave.
A disorienting experience that we never got use to.
pemeliza
on April 26, 2010 at 9:05 am
100k for a good view sounds about right if you are in a modest price range say 750k-1M. View homes also tend to be a lot more private so that is worth considering as well. I had the full on 180′ westerly sunset ocean view in a previous house and for us it was more about the sunset then the ocean although it was cool to watch the sun fade into the water. We were about 2 miles from the water and probably had about 150 or so good view days out of the year and probably 50 of those were write home about spectacular. One thing we never got tired of was the ocean breeze. That is damn hard to replace in fly-over country.
justme
on April 26, 2010 at 9:26 am
I work from home and stare out the same window all day while I work the phones. A view is worth a lot more than 100K to me because of this telecommute lifestyle. I don’t think the average person telecommutes…yet. But that is changing.
Agree with justme. I have a pano-view home with never can be blocked moutain and city light views and often work from home – the feeling of expansiveness and openness it provides is worth a lot psychologically. Here in my county, not sure that is $100k, but agree it’s something.
justme
on April 26, 2010 at 12:56 pm
….and, if I don’t get my money back because someone doesn’t value the view as much as me…I’d be surprised but I’m 100% ok with that. It’s only money. 😉 I at least have a chance at recouping money someday but not years spent looking at a boring view.
Lyle
on April 26, 2010 at 4:27 pm
Let me ask this: now that you can get large flat panel screens, you can eschew the windows and make believe you live anywhere. Either with photos or with web cam feeds. No windows (or the minimum code requires) can save energy. So if you have several you can pretend you live on the beach one day and Mammoth the next.
bubblenerd
on April 26, 2010 at 4:59 pm
On a clear night, with a full moon and depending on where it is, you should see some ocean, right?
justme
on April 26, 2010 at 6:26 pm
Lyle, I have a surf cam attached to the attic of my home where I can watch white water views of premium surf spots (well…premium for north county) from any tv in the house. Technology is cool. I’ve had it for 10 years. I wanted to believe that the 300K premium for the white water view side of the street was ridiculous and that I would be satisfied with the same thing via a cam that I controlled.
I was young and naive. It is better than no view but like most things in life, nothing beats the real thing.
Robo
on April 26, 2010 at 7:35 pm
“On a clear night, with a full moon and depending on where it is, you should see some ocean, right?”
I was thinking on similar lines. One of the best surprises I got from my ocean view was absolutely stunning moonsets on the water in the winter.
Another nice thing: I can gauge if the sun is reaching the beach on a summer day with fluctuating marine layer, and even how many cars are in the parking lot at Torrey Pines. And on a dead dark night I can watch the occasional lonely vehicle driving along the coast highway. Santa Ana days are so alarmingly clear that you can almost feel the spray off the waves from 2 miles away. Peaceful stuff that is priceless to me. 100K seems a deal, though I would echo the above comment that you have to factor in price of the home, and perhaps consider a percentage instead – say 10 to 20% more? Of course, not all ocean views are equal.
I work from home as well, so would simply never even consider a home without a panoramic view. I did have to give up some things such as home size and my three-car garage. Well worth it though.
LM
on April 26, 2010 at 8:25 pm
June gloom is right. I will never buy coastal here simply because of that reason.
I prefer heat and sun…especially in spring.
You dont get that within 2 miles of the coast in May/June.
I must concur about the moon over the ocean on a clear night. I’ve never lived with such a view, but I’ve gone to visit one many times.
IMHO, a full moon doesn’t work as well as a waxing half or three-quarter moon. At midnight, a full moon will be directly overhead, whereas a waxing half moon will be just hitting the horizon, reflecting off the ocean. Absolutely gorgeous.
Sounds like you are driving, filming and leafing through papers simultaneously? At least I don’t hear you chewing gum, so that’s a relief.
Jim,
Thanks for the tip on ocean views. This is why I continue to follow your blog. If you’re not local, there is no way you know these things.
My wife and I lived in Phoenix for a short while. Beautiful views, etc. But none of the realtors told us before we moved there that we’d wind up living like Batman. Most of the day the shades were shut on all of our windows because of the heat from the sun. The 2 months of “winter” were fine, but the rest of the time we lived in a bat cave.
A disorienting experience that we never got use to.
100k for a good view sounds about right if you are in a modest price range say 750k-1M. View homes also tend to be a lot more private so that is worth considering as well. I had the full on 180′ westerly sunset ocean view in a previous house and for us it was more about the sunset then the ocean although it was cool to watch the sun fade into the water. We were about 2 miles from the water and probably had about 150 or so good view days out of the year and probably 50 of those were write home about spectacular. One thing we never got tired of was the ocean breeze. That is damn hard to replace in fly-over country.
I work from home and stare out the same window all day while I work the phones. A view is worth a lot more than 100K to me because of this telecommute lifestyle. I don’t think the average person telecommutes…yet. But that is changing.
Agree with justme. I have a pano-view home with never can be blocked moutain and city light views and often work from home – the feeling of expansiveness and openness it provides is worth a lot psychologically. Here in my county, not sure that is $100k, but agree it’s something.
….and, if I don’t get my money back because someone doesn’t value the view as much as me…I’d be surprised but I’m 100% ok with that. It’s only money. 😉 I at least have a chance at recouping money someday but not years spent looking at a boring view.
Let me ask this: now that you can get large flat panel screens, you can eschew the windows and make believe you live anywhere. Either with photos or with web cam feeds. No windows (or the minimum code requires) can save energy. So if you have several you can pretend you live on the beach one day and Mammoth the next.
On a clear night, with a full moon and depending on where it is, you should see some ocean, right?
Lyle, I have a surf cam attached to the attic of my home where I can watch white water views of premium surf spots (well…premium for north county) from any tv in the house. Technology is cool. I’ve had it for 10 years. I wanted to believe that the 300K premium for the white water view side of the street was ridiculous and that I would be satisfied with the same thing via a cam that I controlled.
I was young and naive. It is better than no view but like most things in life, nothing beats the real thing.
“On a clear night, with a full moon and depending on where it is, you should see some ocean, right?”
I was thinking on similar lines. One of the best surprises I got from my ocean view was absolutely stunning moonsets on the water in the winter.
Another nice thing: I can gauge if the sun is reaching the beach on a summer day with fluctuating marine layer, and even how many cars are in the parking lot at Torrey Pines. And on a dead dark night I can watch the occasional lonely vehicle driving along the coast highway. Santa Ana days are so alarmingly clear that you can almost feel the spray off the waves from 2 miles away. Peaceful stuff that is priceless to me. 100K seems a deal, though I would echo the above comment that you have to factor in price of the home, and perhaps consider a percentage instead – say 10 to 20% more? Of course, not all ocean views are equal.
I work from home as well, so would simply never even consider a home without a panoramic view. I did have to give up some things such as home size and my three-car garage. Well worth it though.
June gloom is right. I will never buy coastal here simply because of that reason.
I prefer heat and sun…especially in spring.
You dont get that within 2 miles of the coast in May/June.
Thats why I live Dluz area
I must concur about the moon over the ocean on a clear night. I’ve never lived with such a view, but I’ve gone to visit one many times.
IMHO, a full moon doesn’t work as well as a waxing half or three-quarter moon. At midnight, a full moon will be directly overhead, whereas a waxing half moon will be just hitting the horizon, reflecting off the ocean. Absolutely gorgeous.