Comments on: Barratt Fiasco http://www.bubbleinfo.com/2009/06/17/barratt-fiasco/ An insider's guide to North San Diego County Real Estate Mon, 15 Mar 2010 00:12:56 +0000 hourly 1 By: shoppingaround http://www.bubbleinfo.com/2009/06/17/barratt-fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-16570 shoppingaround Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:57:19 +0000 http://www.bubbleinfo.com/?p=3526#comment-16570 Doughboy, LOL! I always wondered why homes in Rancho Carrillo all had (mostly odd) "casitas." Now I know. Also, there really have been developers who planned and built nice communities using their econmies of scale to help lower-end buyers. We just haven't seen (m)any in SoCal for a looooong time--too much money to be made. Doughboy,

LOL! I always wondered why homes in Rancho Carrillo all had (mostly odd) “casitas.” Now I know.

Also, there really have been developers who planned and built nice communities using their econmies of scale to help lower-end buyers. We just haven’t seen (m)any in SoCal for a looooong time–too much money to be made.

]]> By: CA renter http://www.bubbleinfo.com/2009/06/17/barratt-fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-16567 CA renter Thu, 18 Jun 2009 07:18:52 +0000 http://www.bubbleinfo.com/?p=3526#comment-16567 <i>Am I the only one who thinks that multi-property development should never have been allowed? It seems such a shame that large developers have swept in and ruined communities by stuffing in generic mass-produced homes using economies of scale. We need some kind of rule — you can buy land and carve it up. But you can’t build on it. You can only sell the lots. And no builder can be building more than X buildings within a certain radius.</i> ------------- In 100% agreement with you on this. It's actually one of my biggest pet peeves. Though this is understandably controversial, I have a problem with any person or entity controlling too much land. Yes, the definitions of "entity" and "too much" are very subjective and would make any regulations difficult to enforce, but as a general statement, I think society is best served if control and ownership of land is not concentrated as it is now. Am I the only one who thinks that multi-property development should never have been allowed? It seems such a shame that large developers have swept in and ruined communities by stuffing in generic mass-produced homes using economies of scale. We need some kind of rule — you can buy land and carve it up. But you can’t build on it. You can only sell the lots. And no builder can be building more than X buildings within a certain radius.
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In 100% agreement with you on this. It’s actually one of my biggest pet peeves.

Though this is understandably controversial, I have a problem with any person or entity controlling too much land. Yes, the definitions of “entity” and “too much” are very subjective and would make any regulations difficult to enforce, but as a general statement, I think society is best served if control and ownership of land is not concentrated as it is now.

]]> By: kevin http://www.bubbleinfo.com/2009/06/17/barratt-fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-16555 kevin Thu, 18 Jun 2009 02:41:45 +0000 http://www.bubbleinfo.com/?p=3526#comment-16555 The developer chose to go for a density bonus on those two separate subdivisions. Density bonus can give the developer a windfall by adding more lots to the subdivision. In return, the developer sets aside some units that can not be leased or owned by someone who makes as much money as the typical resident. The density bonus is a state law written and approved by people with no names. What was crazy was that Barratt let David Meyer (another developer) hold only the low income housing unit. As you can tell, Meyer hasn't been too swift in constructing the low income housing and there doesn't appear to be any reason for him to build it. The developer chose to go for a density bonus on those two separate subdivisions. Density bonus can give the developer a windfall by adding more lots to the subdivision. In return, the developer sets aside some units that can not be leased or owned by someone who makes as much money as the typical resident. The density bonus is a state law written and approved by people with no names.

What was crazy was that Barratt let David Meyer (another developer) hold only the low income housing unit. As you can tell, Meyer hasn’t been too swift in constructing the low income housing and there doesn’t appear to be any reason for him to build it.

]]> By: ArtEclectic http://www.bubbleinfo.com/2009/06/17/barratt-fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-16552 ArtEclectic Thu, 18 Jun 2009 02:15:10 +0000 http://www.bubbleinfo.com/?p=3526#comment-16552 Aztec, you can put me down as anti multi-property development. Those things give me the willies. Stepford communities. Aztec, you can put me down as anti multi-property development. Those things give me the willies. Stepford communities.

]]> By: lgs http://www.bubbleinfo.com/2009/06/17/barratt-fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-16540 lgs Wed, 17 Jun 2009 23:08:09 +0000 http://www.bubbleinfo.com/?p=3526#comment-16540 At least the homeless folks don't have a home that has caused their networth to go negative. Zero is as low as they can get. That's more than one can say about at least a few of the folks who bought the Barratt houses next door at the wrong time. At least the homeless folks don’t have a home that has caused their networth to go negative. Zero is as low as they can get. That’s more than one can say about at least a few of the folks who bought the Barratt houses next door at the wrong time.

]]> By: doughboy http://www.bubbleinfo.com/2009/06/17/barratt-fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-16532 doughboy Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:21:07 +0000 http://www.bubbleinfo.com/?p=3526#comment-16532 Carlsbad let Rancho Carrillo's master developer 8 years ago get away with naming the "Guest Suites" attached/within the Mc Mansions as affordable housing as long as they had an outside separate entrance! Carlsbad let Rancho Carrillo’s master developer 8 years ago get away with naming the “Guest Suites” attached/within the Mc Mansions as affordable housing as long as they had an outside separate entrance!

]]> By: Aztec http://www.bubbleinfo.com/2009/06/17/barratt-fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-16530 Aztec Wed, 17 Jun 2009 20:46:00 +0000 http://www.bubbleinfo.com/?p=3526#comment-16530 Am I the only one who thinks that multi-property development should never have been allowed? It seems such a shame that large developers have swept in and ruined communities by stuffing in generic mass-produced homes using economies of scale. We need some kind of rule -- you can buy land and carve it up. But you can't build on it. You can only sell the lots. And no builder can be building more than X buildings within a certain radius. On the affordable housing topic... in some areas I think you can just buy your way out of it. I seem to recall up here in Marin county someone having to pay $40K or something. Am I the only one who thinks that multi-property development should never have been allowed? It seems such a shame that large developers have swept in and ruined communities by stuffing in generic mass-produced homes using economies of scale. We need some kind of rule — you can buy land and carve it up. But you can’t build on it. You can only sell the lots. And no builder can be building more than X buildings within a certain radius.

On the affordable housing topic… in some areas I think you can just buy your way out of it. I seem to recall up here in Marin county someone having to pay $40K or something.

]]> By: 3clicks from da Beach http://www.bubbleinfo.com/2009/06/17/barratt-fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-16527 3clicks from da Beach Wed, 17 Jun 2009 19:20:42 +0000 http://www.bubbleinfo.com/?p=3526#comment-16527 I like that you are all access Jim and no deserving city or hood can escape your lens. If once is not familiar with Encinitas, it would appear a ghost town from that video. Well done. I like that you are all access Jim and no deserving city or hood can escape your lens. If once is not familiar with Encinitas, it would appear a ghost town from that video. Well done.

]]> By: Consultant http://www.bubbleinfo.com/2009/06/17/barratt-fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-16526 Consultant Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:47:40 +0000 http://www.bubbleinfo.com/?p=3526#comment-16526 The new public housing. The new public housing.

]]> By: arizonadude http://www.bubbleinfo.com/2009/06/17/barratt-fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-16525 arizonadude Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:27:17 +0000 http://www.bubbleinfo.com/?p=3526#comment-16525 NIMBY please. NIMBY please.

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