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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bubbleinfo.com/2009/03/30/1million-plus-market-1q-stats/comment-page-1/#comment-12513</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 20:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;How many lied on they loan applications to buy that $1,000,000.00 “dream house”? How many did pull money out of their home to make the payment?&quot;

Apparently, not as many as we thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;How many lied on they loan applications to buy that $1,000,000.00 “dream house”? How many did pull money out of their home to make the payment?&#8221;</p>
<p>Apparently, not as many as we thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 22:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many lied on they loan applications to buy that $1,000,000.00 &quot;dream house&quot;? How many did pull money out of their home to make the payment?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many lied on they loan applications to buy that $1,000,000.00 &#8220;dream house&#8221;? How many did pull money out of their home to make the payment?</p>
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		<title>By: Jim the Realtor</title>
		<link>http://www.bubbleinfo.com/2009/03/30/1million-plus-market-1q-stats/comment-page-1/#comment-12443</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim the Realtor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 13:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree whole-heartedly.

I&#039;ll add to your two accurate issues of affordability and unemployment.

3. Can we short-sell our way out of this?  

An excruciating idea to those of us in the business, but as long as the lenders are going to fumble around trying to process short sales, it&#039;s going to provide the first option for sellers.  

I wish lenders would either streamline the process, or do away with them altogether, but for now we&#039;ll endure a painful road that greatly benefits the sellers - free rent for months (or years) and less impact on their credit (allegedly).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree whole-heartedly.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll add to your two accurate issues of affordability and unemployment.</p>
<p>3. Can we short-sell our way out of this?  </p>
<p>An excruciating idea to those of us in the business, but as long as the lenders are going to fumble around trying to process short sales, it&#8217;s going to provide the first option for sellers.  </p>
<p>I wish lenders would either streamline the process, or do away with them altogether, but for now we&#8217;ll endure a painful road that greatly benefits the sellers &#8211; free rent for months (or years) and less impact on their credit (allegedly).</p>
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		<title>By: Godot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Godot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 13:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read on another east coast blog that the areas that disproportionately had subprime, also had Neg AM so its probably not that surprising that these numbers arent very large.  Countywide, they were in large numbers, but likely more concentrated in the areas that have already blown up.

I hate to say it, but I think Mr. Mortgage sold us a bill of goods regarding the &quot;PAY ARM TSUNAMI&quot;.  Maybe he realizes the jig is up and thats why he seems to have disappeared recently.

In a way, I am just glad to finally know it was more hype than anything.  My biggest fear was I would buy and THEN the tsunami would come, putting me instantly underwater - now I dont have to worry about this.

As others have said, keys now are affordability and unemployment.  This isnt over yet.  Still im glad thats one less &quot;issue&quot; we need to obsess over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read on another east coast blog that the areas that disproportionately had subprime, also had Neg AM so its probably not that surprising that these numbers arent very large.  Countywide, they were in large numbers, but likely more concentrated in the areas that have already blown up.</p>
<p>I hate to say it, but I think Mr. Mortgage sold us a bill of goods regarding the &#8220;PAY ARM TSUNAMI&#8221;.  Maybe he realizes the jig is up and thats why he seems to have disappeared recently.</p>
<p>In a way, I am just glad to finally know it was more hype than anything.  My biggest fear was I would buy and THEN the tsunami would come, putting me instantly underwater &#8211; now I dont have to worry about this.</p>
<p>As others have said, keys now are affordability and unemployment.  This isnt over yet.  Still im glad thats one less &#8220;issue&#8221; we need to obsess over.</p>
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		<title>By: Nameless</title>
		<link>http://www.bubbleinfo.com/2009/03/30/1million-plus-market-1q-stats/comment-page-1/#comment-12434</link>
		<dc:creator>Nameless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 03:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Do you remember this map from Business Week? &lt;/i&gt;

Yes, I do remember this map. It showed the percentage of payment option loans among all loans issued during some part of 2006. There are at least three reasons why there&#039;s no contradiction with Jim&#039;s numbers:

- Payment option boom only lasted roughly two years, 2005 and 2006. Relatively few neg-ams were issued in 2004 and before. Neg-am business ended in 2007. Loans originated in 2005 and 2006 are probably no more than 20% of all loans outstanding. If 35% of those were neg-ams, that would mean that 7% of all loans in San Diego were neg-ams.

- Some of these loans have already defaulted.

- The original assumption (that neg-ams were concentrated in coastal north county) was completely unfounded. In fact the average balance of all outstanding CA neg-ams is less than 500k. Neg-ams were probably far more popular in San Marcos and Chula Vista than in Encinitas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Do you remember this map from Business Week? </i></p>
<p>Yes, I do remember this map. It showed the percentage of payment option loans among all loans issued during some part of 2006. There are at least three reasons why there&#8217;s no contradiction with Jim&#8217;s numbers:</p>
<p>- Payment option boom only lasted roughly two years, 2005 and 2006. Relatively few neg-ams were issued in 2004 and before. Neg-am business ended in 2007. Loans originated in 2005 and 2006 are probably no more than 20% of all loans outstanding. If 35% of those were neg-ams, that would mean that 7% of all loans in San Diego were neg-ams.</p>
<p>- Some of these loans have already defaulted.</p>
<p>- The original assumption (that neg-ams were concentrated in coastal north county) was completely unfounded. In fact the average balance of all outstanding CA neg-ams is less than 500k. Neg-ams were probably far more popular in San Marcos and Chula Vista than in Encinitas.</p>
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		<title>By: tj and the bear</title>
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		<dc:creator>tj and the bear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 02:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you&#039;re getting overly anxious about getting off the sidelines and buying a home, well, might as well jump in and aggressively buy stocks too.  As they say, stocks typically bottom early whereas housing prices bottom late.

Gotta keep things in perspective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re getting overly anxious about getting off the sidelines and buying a home, well, might as well jump in and aggressively buy stocks too.  As they say, stocks typically bottom early whereas housing prices bottom late.</p>
<p>Gotta keep things in perspective.</p>
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		<title>By: JE</title>
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		<dc:creator>JE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 02:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I’m surprised at the percentages of neg-am and option ARMs that Jim quotes. Do you remember this map from Business Week? 

http://www.businessweek.com/common_ssi/map_of_misery.htm 

I think the map was from 2006. County-wide the percentages of these loans would appear to be much higher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m surprised at the percentages of neg-am and option ARMs that Jim quotes. Do you remember this map from Business Week? </p>
<p><a href="http://www.businessweek.com/common_ssi/map_of_misery.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.businessweek.com/common_ssi/map_of_misery.htm</a> </p>
<p>I think the map was from 2006. County-wide the percentages of these loans would appear to be much higher.</p>
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		<title>By: FuturesWatcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>FuturesWatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 01:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sticking just to the $1m+ market. It is the high income earners ($250k+) that would be buying $1m+ homes that are getting disproportionately affected by the recession. 

Most people in that income range have salaries that are directly or indirectly (stock options, bonus pools) tied to total company profits.  Across virtually every business, profits are down in 2009.  So incomes are down (and very significantly in many cases).

Compounding the drop in earned income, every other asset class or investment is down (corporate bonds, money market rates, stock portfolios, real estate, commodities, etc).  So your high income earners are feeling the pinch more so than the medium income earners because their incomes are down and their portfolios most likely got much smaller.  If you have a $20k portfolio and you lose 40%, that is meaningless to someone with a $500k portfolio who lost $200k.

On top of the income drop and the portfolio squeeze, federal and state taxes are going up for those in that income range.

This analysis does not even consider job losses, just declines in income and net worth.

So the $1m market will be tough for a while.  Anyone with a good down pay and a steady $250k income does not want the current inventory that is being offered at $1m.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sticking just to the $1m+ market. It is the high income earners ($250k+) that would be buying $1m+ homes that are getting disproportionately affected by the recession. </p>
<p>Most people in that income range have salaries that are directly or indirectly (stock options, bonus pools) tied to total company profits.  Across virtually every business, profits are down in 2009.  So incomes are down (and very significantly in many cases).</p>
<p>Compounding the drop in earned income, every other asset class or investment is down (corporate bonds, money market rates, stock portfolios, real estate, commodities, etc).  So your high income earners are feeling the pinch more so than the medium income earners because their incomes are down and their portfolios most likely got much smaller.  If you have a $20k portfolio and you lose 40%, that is meaningless to someone with a $500k portfolio who lost $200k.</p>
<p>On top of the income drop and the portfolio squeeze, federal and state taxes are going up for those in that income range.</p>
<p>This analysis does not even consider job losses, just declines in income and net worth.</p>
<p>So the $1m market will be tough for a while.  Anyone with a good down pay and a steady $250k income does not want the current inventory that is being offered at $1m.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim the Realtor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim the Realtor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 00:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NEW YORK (Dow Jones)--Fannie Mae (FNM) saw the largest increase in a month of
its single-family delinquency rate among prime borrowers in January.   The
mortgage finance company said this rate shot up to a historic high of 2.77% in
January from 2.42% in December, a record 35 basis point increase that hasn&#039;t
been seen since the company started tracking these numbers in 1998. This
compares to a delinquency rate of 1.06% in January 2008.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NEW YORK (Dow Jones)&#8211;Fannie Mae (FNM) saw the largest increase in a month of<br />
its single-family delinquency rate among prime borrowers in January.   The<br />
mortgage finance company said this rate shot up to a historic high of 2.77% in<br />
January from 2.42% in December, a record 35 basis point increase that hasn&#8217;t<br />
been seen since the company started tracking these numbers in 1998. This<br />
compares to a delinquency rate of 1.06% in January 2008.</p>
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		<title>By: Woodrow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woodrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 23:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Chuck, in particular his comment regarding subprime being a sliver of the overall market but having a large impact.  

I share the frustration of other fence sitters but only have to look at the numbers to regain my patience.  If the coastal markets are indeed in for a year of constant 2-3% monthly drops (my opinion), your entire tax deduction is swallowed up in a month or two of price drops.  

Petco Park isn&#039;t going to be the only meltdown in San Diego this year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Chuck, in particular his comment regarding subprime being a sliver of the overall market but having a large impact.  </p>
<p>I share the frustration of other fence sitters but only have to look at the numbers to regain my patience.  If the coastal markets are indeed in for a year of constant 2-3% monthly drops (my opinion), your entire tax deduction is swallowed up in a month or two of price drops.  </p>
<p>Petco Park isn&#8217;t going to be the only meltdown in San Diego this year.</p>
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