Jim, that is one ugly duplex. I’m surprised that filming something so ugly didn’t damage your camera.
greenlander | August 6th, 2008 at 8:42 am
greenlander,
Nothing is ugly if the price is right.
shadash | August 6th, 2008 at 2:48 pm
Shadash is right, there is nothing, absolutely nothing, that price can’t fix!
SD_Coastal | August 6th, 2008 at 2:56 pm
I agree, but that price doesn’t fix it!
greenlander | August 6th, 2008 at 3:43 pm
Jim and contractor out there: How much would it take to fix this place (both units) up like new?
george8 | August 6th, 2008 at 3:55 pm
The cost to fix must be estimated by others to be around $30,000. I have two offers at $220,000.
I think you could bust it out yourself for $20,000 with DIY cabinets, new carpet, and a lot of spit-shine.
Jim the Realtor | August 6th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
Are the prices being discussed for both units, and do the fix-up estimates include the cost of installing something that remotely resembles landscaping?
GeneK | August 6th, 2008 at 4:30 pm
Jim you stated 26k income @1100 a month. How do you think value going forward(3/7 years) might appreciated in Vista. Do you think 2% or more yearly growth is possible in this area. I want to buy property holding it for an investment, some income is nice as well. I’m happy however long as it’s paying the monthly overhead.
Inland Empire | August 6th, 2008 at 4:31 pm
IE,
I think you could rent these for $1,500 each if they were renovated nicely.
It sold for $457,000 in August, 2004, but was owner-occupied, and financed 100%. They pulled out another $40,000 before getting foreclosed.
It’ll be a while before it gets into the mid-$400,000s, but as a rental property bringing in $36,000 per year I think you could expect a minimum of 2% appreciation. It would probably be worth low-$300,000s the day you rented both units for $1,500 each.
I am very comfortable with downtown Vista, and this area & street. The folks across the street paying the $1,100 have been there for years. I’ve known her for years too – she runs one of my clean-out crews. She has no problem living there, and told me the folks on the street are long-timers.
But for those unfamiliar with the area, it has the appearance of being an older run-down undesirable area. But that is why it’s $249,900.
P.S. The bank countered $247,000.
Jim the Realtor | August 6th, 2008 at 4:47 pm
I’m a fan of Vista (East Vista anyhow…) but stuff like this is really a stretch of the imagination! But I’m not in the slumlord business. I guess this could cash flow for someone who wants to be a landlord.
doughboy | August 6th, 2008 at 6:13 pm
0:47 – "I guess you could say it needs a little work."
I guess you could say that but you’d be lying. Laughing, laughing. You have a talent.
Seriously. Gut job, $15-$18k. Not to the studs, just kitchen, floors and fixtures. Contractors Discount warehouse and one truck with my guys 8-10 days and that’s just because it is tough to floor until paint and cabinets are done. Perfect for a young couple to start out in one side. My parents did that 50 years ago.
Former rentals in otherwise nice neighborhoods can be great first homes (mine was back in ‘83). A few years of multiple tenants with an absentee landlord and a property suffers an incredible amount of relatively easy-to-fix cosmetic destruction long before any longterm structural damage sets in. I’d still rather do it with an SFR, but that’s just because I know I’m not cut out to be a landlord.
GeneK | August 6th, 2008 at 9:37 pm
I like the part about how the chicken wire was reminiscent of the roller derby. That must harken back to the days when JtR was touring on the circuit.
Dwip | August 7th, 2008 at 1:17 am
"Ice cream man" Don’t be naive, Jim. There’s no ice cream in those trucks…that’s just the front to fool the fuzz.
Beth | August 7th, 2008 at 5:54 pm
Beth wants a "4/20 special psychedelic Popsicle" and she wants it now.
Jim, that is one ugly duplex. I’m surprised that filming something so ugly didn’t damage your camera.
greenlander | August 6th, 2008 at 8:42 amgreenlander,
Nothing is ugly if the price is right.
shadash | August 6th, 2008 at 2:48 pmShadash is right, there is nothing, absolutely nothing, that price can’t fix!
SD_Coastal | August 6th, 2008 at 2:56 pmI agree, but that price doesn’t fix it!
greenlander | August 6th, 2008 at 3:43 pmJim and contractor out there: How much would it take to fix this place (both units) up like new?
george8 | August 6th, 2008 at 3:55 pmThe cost to fix must be estimated by others to be around $30,000. I have two offers at $220,000.
I think you could bust it out yourself for $20,000 with DIY cabinets, new carpet, and a lot of spit-shine.
Jim the Realtor | August 6th, 2008 at 4:06 pmAre the prices being discussed for both units, and do the fix-up estimates include the cost of installing something that remotely resembles landscaping?
GeneK | August 6th, 2008 at 4:30 pmJim you stated 26k income @1100 a month. How do you think value going forward(3/7 years) might appreciated in Vista. Do you think 2% or more yearly growth is possible in this area. I want to buy property holding it for an investment, some income is nice as well. I’m happy however long as it’s paying the monthly overhead.
Inland Empire | August 6th, 2008 at 4:31 pmIE,
I think you could rent these for $1,500 each if they were renovated nicely.
It sold for $457,000 in August, 2004, but was owner-occupied, and financed 100%. They pulled out another $40,000 before getting foreclosed.
It’ll be a while before it gets into the mid-$400,000s, but as a rental property bringing in $36,000 per year I think you could expect a minimum of 2% appreciation. It would probably be worth low-$300,000s the day you rented both units for $1,500 each.
I am very comfortable with downtown Vista, and this area & street. The folks across the street paying the $1,100 have been there for years. I’ve known her for years too – she runs one of my clean-out crews. She has no problem living there, and told me the folks on the street are long-timers.
But for those unfamiliar with the area, it has the appearance of being an older run-down undesirable area. But that is why it’s $249,900.
P.S. The bank countered $247,000.
Jim the Realtor | August 6th, 2008 at 4:47 pmI’m a fan of Vista (East Vista anyhow…) but stuff like this is really a stretch of the imagination! But I’m not in the slumlord business. I guess this could cash flow for someone who wants to be a landlord.
doughboy | August 6th, 2008 at 6:13 pm0:47 – "I guess you could say it needs a little work."
I guess you could say that but you’d be lying. Laughing, laughing. You have a talent.
Seriously. Gut job, $15-$18k. Not to the studs, just kitchen, floors and fixtures. Contractors Discount warehouse and one truck with my guys 8-10 days and that’s just because it is tough to floor until paint and cabinets are done. Perfect for a young couple to start out in one side. My parents did that 50 years ago.
Rob Dawg | August 6th, 2008 at 7:21 pmFormer rentals in otherwise nice neighborhoods can be great first homes (mine was back in ‘83). A few years of multiple tenants with an absentee landlord and a property suffers an incredible amount of relatively easy-to-fix cosmetic destruction long before any longterm structural damage sets in. I’d still rather do it with an SFR, but that’s just because I know I’m not cut out to be a landlord.
GeneK | August 6th, 2008 at 9:37 pmI like the part about how the chicken wire was reminiscent of the roller derby. That must harken back to the days when JtR was touring on the circuit.
Dwip | August 7th, 2008 at 1:17 am"Ice cream man" Don’t be naive, Jim. There’s no ice cream in those trucks…that’s just the front to fool the fuzz.
Beth | August 7th, 2008 at 5:54 pmBeth wants a "4/20 special psychedelic Popsicle" and she wants it now.
Dwip | August 7th, 2008 at 10:29 pm